<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:tahoma, new york, times, serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt; ">McTim</div><div style="font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt; "><span style="background-color: transparent; ">Here is the </span><span style="background-color: transparent; ">correspondence</span><span style="background-color: transparent; "> site of DCA with ICANN along various other letters.</span><br></div><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-style: normal; "><span style="font-size: 13.600000381469727px;"><a
href="http://www.dotconnectafrica.org/icann-related-2/icann-outreach-and-participation/letters-to-icann/">http://www.dotconnectafrica.org/icann-related-2/icann-outreach-and-participation/letters-to-icann/</a><br></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-style: normal; "><br></div><div style="background-color: transparent; "><span style="background-color: transparent; "><span style="font-size: 13.600000381469727px;">As far as Mr. Karim, and your reactions to the two links you posted below, I believe Thomas has already responded to you quite well, on the same post you did on The Domain site. I have re-posted his reply to you below.</span></span><br></div><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-style: normal;
"><span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13.600000381469727px;"><br></span></div><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0 40px; border: none; padding: 0px;"><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13.600000381469727px;">Dear Karim Attoumani Mohamed,</span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent; "><br></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent; ">Your comments are quite irrelevant to the issue even as you have also
displayed unwarranted pettiness in your attitude. </span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent; "><br></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent; ">First, DCA's letter to ICANN is about Conflict of Interest. If according to your comments, you already "agree that we must avoid conflicts of interest", then what is your problem with DCA's letter to ICANN? </span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent;
"><br></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent; ">Your attempt to conflate the issue and relate it to the applied-for string name is quite diversionary and aimed entirely at mischief-making in the pursuit of an unknown agenda. Your thinking that the 'dotAfrica' string and '.Africa' string are different gTLD names is borne out of wholesale ignorance. </span><br></div><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent; "><br></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-style: normal; "><span
style="background-color: transparent; ">Moreover, you seem to be calling the results of the application for the gTLD strings even though you are not an expert on string similarity. Are you a member of the ICANN Evaluation Panel or do you have friends in the panel that have indicated to you secretly that they would favour your preferred applicant? </span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent; "><br></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent; ">If according to you "there are many cases that can be used to illustrate the conflict of interest within ICANN", then please feel free to cite such
cases and bring them to the attention of ICANN and the global public. </span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent; "><br></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent; ">Until you do so, you lack the moral standing to comment on DCA's letter to ICANN regarding matters of conflict of interest.</span></div><div style="font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 13.600000381469727px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><br></div></blockquote><div style="font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 13.600000381469727px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);
background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; ">--Lerato Ma</div><div style="font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt; "><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div style="font-family: tahoma, 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 10pt; "> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> McTim <dogwallah@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep@yahoo.fr>; africann@afrinic.net <br><b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Cc:</span></b> attoumani karim <attoukarim@yahoo.fr> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, October 12, 2012 5:17 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re:
[AfrICANN-discuss] It’s like that in life, there are always bad players and bad losers!<br> </font> </div> <br>
All,<br><br>Are these 3 letters referred to in the article part of the public domain?<br><br>I do not see them on either the ICANN website under "Correspondence"<br>or on the DCA website.<br><br>If there is a COI, where is the evidence of same?<br><br><br>-- <br>Cheers,<br><br>McTim<br>"A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A<br>route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel<br><br><br><br>On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 3:25 AM, Pierre Lotis NANKEP <<a ymailto="mailto:lnankep@yahoo.fr" href="mailto:lnankep@yahoo.fr">lnankep@yahoo.fr</a>> wrote:<br>> Dear Karim,<br>><br>> The situation is not as simple as you want to imagine.<br>><br>> Why we refuse to see things as they are? Why try to distract people by<br>> saying that there is no conflict? The situation is such that even a blind or<br>> even a mental patient understands that there is conflict, and that conflict<br>> is at different
levels.<br>><br>> I advise our community to do not declare victory before the result were<br>> announced by ICANN.<br>><br>> Let ICANN arbitrate.<br>><br>> However, everyone is free to draw the attention of ICANN on a fact that it<br>> considers relevant. Is not that the freedom of expression and openness that<br>> we cry day and night?<br>><br>> Cordially.<br>><br>> --<br>> Pierre Lotis NANKEP<br>> IT Engineer / ANTIC<br>> Web : http://www.antic.cm<br>> Email (Pro) : <a ymailto="mailto:pierre.nankep@antic.cm" href="mailto:pierre.nankep@antic.cm">pierre.nankep@antic.cm</a><br>> GSM : +237 77 66 10 07<br>> ________________________________<br>> De : attoumani karim <<a ymailto="mailto:attoukarim@yahoo.fr" href="mailto:attoukarim@yahoo.fr">attoukarim@yahoo.fr</a>><br>> À : "<a ymailto="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>" <<a
ymailto="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>><br>> Envoyé le : Vendredi 12 octobre 2012 7h45<br>> Objet : [AfrICANN-discuss] It’s like that in life, there are always bad<br>> players and bad losers!<br>><br>> Colleagues, I react on these two articles:<br>> http://www.thedomains.com/2012/10/03/dotconnectafrica-sends-third-letter-to-icann-alleging-conflict-of-interest-issues-with-its-board-members-over-africa/<br>> http://domainingafrica.com/i-will-win-africa-because-i-have-friends-in-high-places-case-of-conflicted-board-members/<br>><br>> If we refer to strings submited to this first round, we can note a demand<br>> for the string africa (applicant id 1-1243-89583) and another one dotafrica<br>> (1-1165-42560). I wonder why write these kinds of articles would hear in a<br>> conflict between two entities for africa string that does not exist. I agree<br>>
that we must avoid conflicts of interest, but for the .Africa, this conflict<br>> should not exist. There are many cases that can be used to illustrate the<br>> conflict of interest within ICANN and not the .Africa (to differentiate from<br>> .DotAfrica)<br>> I’m sure people who have applied for the DotAfrica (as string) knew they had<br>> lost in advance the africa!<br>> http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/application-results/strings-1200utc-13jun12-en<br>><br>> ATTOUMANI MOHAMED Karim, Comores<br>><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> AfrICANN mailing list<br>> <a ymailto="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net" href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net">AfrICANN@afrinic.net</a><br>> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann</a><br>><br>><br>><br>>
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