<p>Here we go with a possibly long thread of discussion. I hope it&#39;s worth it.</p>
<p>Cheers!</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Oct 12, 2012 9:00 AM, &quot;attoumani karim&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:attoukarim@yahoo.fr">attoukarim@yahoo.fr</a>&gt; wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div><div><div><div><font>Dear Pierre,</font></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font><br></font></div><div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
<font>The question we need to ask &quot;who benefits from the crisis&quot; or &quot;who wants to benefit from the crisis.&quot; IMHO, if we stick to the strings, there is only one candidate for africa and another for dotafrica. Do we agree on this point? Cf </font><a href="http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/application-results/strings-1200utc-13jun12-en" target="_blank">http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/application-results/strings-1200utc-13jun12-en</a>.</div>
<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><br></div><div><font>Why we do not try to break this (non-)crisis rationally point by point and level by level as most actors are african. Most of us consider themself as experts in naming but we shut our eyes to the essential: the strings, before any other consideration.</font></div>
<div style="font-style:normal;font-size:13px;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><font><br></font></div><div><font>I hope that if people who have applied for africa string would fail, the reason will not be they had two candidates for the string africa!</font></div>
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<span><font>Kind regards,</font></span></div><div style="font-size:13px;font-style:normal;background-color:transparent;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"><span style="font-size:10pt"> </span><br></div></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;font-weight:bold;color:rgb(64,64,255)">
<span style="font-style:italic"></span>ATTOUMANI MOHAMED Karim,<br><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial"><span>Comoros representative on the Governmental Advisory Committee of ICANN</span></font><br><span style="font-style:italic">Ingénieur Télécoms en Transmission, Réseaux et Commutation</span><br>
Chef du Département Études et Projets,<br>Autorité Nationale de Régulation des TIC (ANRTIC) - Union des Comores, <br></div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt;color:rgb(64,64,255)"><span style="font-weight:bold"><a href="tel:%28%2B269%29%20334%2037%2006" value="+2693343706" target="_blank">(+269) 334 37 06</a> (Mobile Moroni)</span> - <span style="font-weight:bold">ID Skype: attoukarim - <a rel="nofollow" href="http://eduportfolio.org/5667" target="_blank">siteperso</a></span></div>
<div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><br></div>  <div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:12pt"> <div style="font-family:&#39;times new roman&#39;,&#39;new york&#39;,times,serif;font-size:12pt">
 <div dir="ltr"> <font face="Arial"> <hr size="1">  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">De :</span></b> Pierre Lotis NANKEP &lt;<a href="mailto:lnankep@yahoo.fr" target="_blank">lnankep@yahoo.fr</a>&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">À :</span></b> attoumani karim &lt;<a href="mailto:attoukarim@yahoo.fr" target="_blank">attoukarim@yahoo.fr</a>&gt;; &quot;<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank">africann@afrinic.net</a>&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank">africann@afrinic.net</a>&gt; <br>
 <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Envoyé le :</span></b> Vendredi 12 octobre 2012
 10h25<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Objet :</span></b> Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] It’s like that in life, there are always bad players and bad losers!<br> </font> </div> <br><div><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">
<div><span>Dear Karim,<br><br>The situation is not as simple as you want to imagine.<br><br>Why we refuse to see things as they are? Why try to distract people by saying that there is no conflict? The situation is such that even a blind or even a mental patient understands that there is conflict, and that conflict is at different  levels.<br>
<br>I advise our community to do not declare victory before the result were announced by ICANN.<br><br>Let ICANN arbitrate.<br><br>However, everyone is free to draw the attention of ICANN on a fact that it considers relevant. Is not that the freedom of expression and
 openness that we cry day and night?<br><br>Cordially.</span></div><div> </div><div>--<br>Pierre Lotis NANKEP<br>IT Engineer / ANTIC<br>Web : <a href="http://www.antic.cm" target="_blank">http://www.antic.cm</a><br>Email (Pro) : <a href="mailto:pierre.nankep@antic.cm" target="_blank">pierre.nankep@antic.cm</a><br>
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  <b><span style="font-weight:bold">De :</span></b> attoumani karim &lt;<a href="mailto:attoukarim@yahoo.fr" target="_blank">attoukarim@yahoo.fr</a>&gt;<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">À :</span></b> &quot;<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank">africann@afrinic.net</a>&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank">africann@afrinic.net</a>&gt; <br>
 <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Envoyé le :</span></b> Vendredi 12 octobre 2012 7h45<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Objet :</span></b> [AfrICANN-discuss] It’s like that in life, there are always bad players and bad losers!<br>
 </font> </div> <br><div><div><div style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div><span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Georgia,&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,Times,serif;line-height:22px">Colleagues, I react
 on these two
 articles:</span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:13px;font-family:Georgia,&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,Times,serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal"><span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Georgia,&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,Times,serif;line-height:22px"><a rel="nofollow" href="http://www.thedomains.com/2012/10/03/dotconnectafrica-sends-third-letter-to-icann-alleging-conflict-of-interest-issues-with-its-board-members-over-africa/" target="_blank">http://www.thedomains.com/2012/10/03/dotconnectafrica-sends-third-letter-to-icann-alleging-conflict-of-interest-issues-with-its-board-members-over-africa/</a><br>
</span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:13px;font-family:Georgia,&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,Times,serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal"><span><a rel="nofollow" href="http://domainingafrica.com/i-will-win-africa-because-i-have-friends-in-high-places-case-of-conflicted-board-members/" target="_blank">http://domainingafrica.com/i-will-win-africa-because-i-have-friends-in-high-places-case-of-conflicted-board-members/</a><br>
</span></div><div style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:13px;font-family:Georgia,&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,Times,serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal"><span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Georgia,&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,Times,serif;line-height:22px"><br>
</span></span></div><div style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-size:13px;font-family:Georgia,&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,Times,serif;background-color:transparent;font-style:normal"><span><span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Georgia,&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,Times,serif;line-height:22px">If we refer to strings submited to this first round, we can note a demand for the string africa (applicant id
 1-1243-89583) and another one dotafrica (1-1165-42560). I wonder why write these kinds of articles would hear in a conflict between two entities for africa string that does not exist. I agree that we must avoid conflicts of interest, but for the .Africa, this conflict should not exist. There are many cases that can be used to illustrate the conflict of interest within ICANN and not the .Africa (to differentiate from .DotAfrica)</span><br style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Georgia,&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,Times,serif;line-height:22px">
<span style="color:rgb(51,51,51);font-family:Georgia,&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,Times,serif;line-height:22px">I’m sure people who have applied for the DotAfrica (as string) knew they had lost in advance the africa!</span><br>
<a rel="nofollow" href="http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/application-results/strings-1200utc-13jun12-en" style="text-decoration:none;color:rgb(0,122,204);font-family:Georgia,&#39;Times New Roman&#39;,Times,serif;line-height:22px" target="_blank">http://newgtlds.icann.org/en/program-status/application-results/strings-1200utc-13jun12-en</a></span></div>
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