<html><head></head><body bgcolor="#FFFFFF"><div>Lerato Ma,</div><div><br></div><div>Please, I spoke on this list as my individual self and not as chair or member of anything. I did not mention any names but you have mentioned my name</div><div><br></div><div>Are you speaking for yourself? Have you read the document and do you have any comments?</div><div><br></div><div>We are talking about strategy not new gTLDs so feel free and say your mind but be on topic</div><div><br></div><div>Nii (for myself)<br><br>On Sep 11, 2012, at 15:50, Lerato <<a href="mailto:lerato.ma@yahoo.com">lerato.ma@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><div><span></span></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; "><span><span style="color: rgb(69, 69, 69); font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11.818181991577148px; ">Dear Badru-</span></span></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11.818181991577148px; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent; "><span><font color="#454545" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span><br></span></font></span></span></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11.818181991577148px; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent; "><span><font color="#454545" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span>Thank you
for </span></font></span></span><span style="background-color: transparent; ">responding with an open mind </span><span style="background-color: transparent; ">My owed response to you is as follows:</span></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11.818181991577148px; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent; "><br></span></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11.818181991577148px; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent; "><span><font color="#454545" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span>After my long observation on how things are handed in the said African internet communities, I certainly have come to realize the isolation of </span></font></span></span><span style="background-color: transparent;
"><font color="#454545" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span><span>DCA in this group is what has been creating the so-called division within the community (certainly may have stemmed from the gTLD issue) and that your partisan approach to issues always prevented you from seeing and understanding both sides of the debate. Even the recent response I read from your elect chair Nii, reducing critical issues of inclusion and transparency to a level of "why my friends are not selected" is a failed explanation to handling such issues and defeats the whole purpose of the dialog. </span></span></font></span></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11.818181991577148px; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent; "><font color="#454545" face="Arial, Helvetica,
sans-serif"><span><span><br></span></span></font></span></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11.818181991577148px; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent; "><font color="#454545" face="Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif"><span><span>I am sure you understand me. Hence, I will let go of this matter now and </span></span></font></span><span style="background-color: transparent; ">will expect that DCA to respond and articulate its official position at the appropriate time.</span><br></div><div style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 11.818181991577148px; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><br></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.63636302947998px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span>--Lerato
Ma</span></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; "> </div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; "><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; "><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><div dir="ltr"><font size="2" face="Arial"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Lerato <<a href="mailto:lerato.ma@yahoo.com">lerato.ma@yahoo.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> Badru Ntege <<a href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>>; "<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>>; 'Lerato' <<a href="mailto:yes2dotafrica@dotconnectafrica.org">yes2dotafrica@dotconnectafrica.org</a>>; "<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>> <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, September 9, 2012 2:31 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] A brief update on the ASWG<br> </font> </div> <br>
<div id="yiv1922896291"><div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255); font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; "><div>Dear Badru-</div><div><br></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; ">Thanks for your email and fair enough I will get back to you, got to run now.</div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color:transparent;"><br></span></div><div style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color:transparent;">--Lerato Ma </span></div><div><blockquote style="border-left:2px solid rgb(16, 16,
255);margin-left:5px;margin-top:5px;padding-left:5px;"> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; "> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Badru Ntege <<a href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>><br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">To:</span></b> 'Lerato' <<a href="mailto:lerato.ma@yahoo.com">lerato.ma@yahoo.com</a>>; <a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>; 'Lerato' <<a href="mailto:yes2dotafrica@dotconnectafrica.org">yes2dotafrica@dotconnectafrica.org</a>>; <a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, September 9, 2012 12:03 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [AfrICANN-discuss] A brief update on the ASWG<br> </font> </div> <br>
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--></style><div><div class="yiv1922896291WordSection1"><div class="yiv1922896291MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Lerato</span></div><div class="yiv1922896291MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div class="yiv1922896291MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Thanks for the response. Let me try and respond in an open mind. And if you think im wrong please let me know.</span></div><div class="yiv1922896291MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;"><div class="yiv1922896291MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73,
125); "> </span></div><div><blockquote style="margin-left:30.0pt;margin-right:0in;"><div><div class="yiv1922896291MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1922896291MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Please make me understand why every effort is wrong, negative and has a hidden agenda. </span></div></div></blockquote><div><div class="yiv1922896291MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1922896291MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">Mr. Badru- you seem to always play the role of réconciliateur chef, but you are infamous for having echoed loudly at all times that DCA is not part of the "community" you have been
working with.
DCA has finally learned to accept not being accepted in your group, however very cautious not to be excluded as Africans who want to contribute genuinely to the Continent.</span></div><div class="yiv1922896291MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">[>] </span></i></b></div></div><div><div class="yiv1922896291MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Let me understand more about these groups. I know we have a number of views and opinions and at times those will not be aligned but I did not know that we now have constituted groups. We never agree with all view points shared but if we created a group every time we got a disagreement we would have far too many groups. </span></i></b></div><div class="yiv1922896291MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family:
Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></i></b></div><div class="yiv1922896291MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Its true on the .africa issue they were two view points and that’s acceptable. But that should not divide the community. Its only a gtld.</span></i></b></div><div class="yiv1922896291MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">[>] </span></i></b><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1922896291MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">If you do not want us in your group and deliberately design WGs to exclude us, there must be a reason of one of your above mentions? and whatever Africa Strategy your group develops if at ICANN level,
will
have to be either subject to the scrutiny of our group so you do not impose your views on us, and or we should be left alone to develop our own under the same umbrella. At least at the ICANN level, we know we should not be excluded. </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1922896291MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div class="yiv1922896291MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">[>] </span></i></b></div><div class="yiv1922896291MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">It seems to me you are excluding yourself. By sharing and asking for comments everyone is trying to be inclusive. If you do feel or anyone else on the list feels that they are other members of the community who should be on this
WG I
think the best approach would be to suggest some names on the list and im sure through consensus the community would reach an amicable solution.</span></i></b></div><div class="yiv1922896291MsoNormal"><b><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></i></b></div><div class="yiv1922896291MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></div></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div><div><span>_______________________________________________</span><br><span>AfrICANN mailing list</span><br><span><a href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net">AfrICANN@afrinic.net</a></span><br><span><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann</a></span><br></div></blockquote></body></html>