Dear Nii,<br><br>Its good that we have the responses, however i believe the meetings and discussions have got nothing to do with the new gTLD's .<br><br>Thanks.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 2:10 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:africann-request@afrinic.net" target="_blank">africann-request@afrinic.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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1. Re: RE: [AFRI-Discuss] Theme of the Toronto AFRALO-AfrICANN<br>
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Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 23:06:03 +0100 (BST)<br>
From: Yaovi Atohoun <<a href="mailto:yaovito@yahoo.fr">yaovito@yahoo.fr</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] RE: [AFRI-Discuss] Theme of the<br>
Toronto AFRALO-AfrICANN joint meeting<br>
To: "<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>" <<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>>,<br>
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Hi all,<br>
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I am also in favor of the theme "ICANN Strategic Approach Towards Africa"<br>
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Thanks<br>
Yaovi Atohoun<br>
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Envoyé : vendredi 7 septembre 2012 10:39<br>
À : Aziz Hilali<br>
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Objet : Re: [AFRI-Discuss] Theme of the Toronto AFRALO-AfrICANN joint meeting<br>
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Dear Aziz, Colleagues<br>
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ICANN new CEO/Leadership has started focusing a new ICANN role in the developing world with special focus on Africa. Choosing Dr.Tarik Kamil as an advisor and Dr.Nii is clear signals tof this new approach.<br>
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I suggest the meeting to focus on "ICANN Strategic Approach Towards Africa", we can invite ICANN CEO "Chedi", Tarik Kamil, Nii and others involved to give their prospective on how Africa can utilize this opportunity.<br>
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The meeting will be a good chance also for the community to discuss about our areas of focus and interest and how ICANN and the internet community could collaborate .<br>
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Kind Regards,<br>
Mohamed El Bashir<br>
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( Sent by iPhone - apologies for any misspelling )<br>
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On 7 Sep 2012, at 00:21, Aziz Hilali <<a href="mailto:hilaliaziz@yahoo.fr">hilaliaziz@yahoo.fr</a>> wrote:<br>
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> French below:<br>
> <br>
> Dear all,<br>
> As we did during the previous ICANN<br>
> meetings, we will discuss an issue or subject of interest to our<br>
> region at the scheduled AFRALO / AfrICANN meeting in Toronto. As a<br>
> result of this meeting, we will come out, as usual, with a common statement on the above subject.<br>
> <br>
> The aim of this message is to ask you to please, suggest a theme that<br>
> you think would be the most pertinent in this regard. We would<br>
> appreciate your proposal being sent before September 14. The subject<br>
> will be chosen on the basis of the importance of its support on the<br>
> two lists AfrICANN and AFRALO.<br>
> <br>
> It should be noted that the interest of this tradition, which we<br>
> organize together since Brussels, is to express the point of view of<br>
> the African ICANN community on current issues and thus give more<br>
> visibility for our region.<br>
> <br>
> Best Regards<br>
> <br>
> ----------------------------------<br>
> Chers tous,<br>
> <br>
> Comme nous l'avons fait au cours des précédentes réunions de l'ICANN,<br>
> nous allons organiser à Toronto la réunion conjointe AFRALO/AfrICANN<br>
> pour débattre d’une question ou d’un sujet d'intérêt pour notre<br>
> région. À la suite de cette réunion, nous allons sortir comme<br>
> d'habitude, avec une déclaration commune sur le sujet choisi.<br>
> <br>
> Le but de ce message est de vous demander de bien vouloir proposer un<br>
> thème que vous pensez être le plus pertinent à cet égard. Nous<br>
> apprécierions que la proposition de thème soit envoyée avant 14<br>
> Septembre. Le sujet choisi devra avoir l’approbation des deux listes AfrICANN et Afralo.<br>
> <br>
> Il est à noter que l'intérêt de cette tradition que nous organisons<br>
> ensemble depuis Bruxelles, est d'exprimer le point de vue de la<br>
> communauté africaine de l'ICANN sur les questions d'actualité et de<br>
> donner ainsi plus de visibilité pour notre région.<br>
> <br>
> <br>
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Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Re: A brief update on the ASWG<br>
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Seems to me the best way of contributing was to fill the questionnaires<br>
which were circulated on this list in both English and French versions!!!<br>
<br>
Pierre Dandjinou<br>
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On Sunday, September 9, 2012, Pierre Lotis NANKEP <<a href="mailto:lnankep@yahoo.fr">lnankep@yahoo.fr</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Dear All,<br>
><br>
> I pity my Africa, When the end of amateurism?<br>
> When will be the end of the exploitation of our activists?<br>
> ICANN has used the same approach in other regions?<br>
> Really, Africa continue to serve as a test laboratory. And when it suits<br>
the interest of some selfish, they can only be silent.<br>
> Our Internet activists have become businessmen or politicians. One might<br>
even call them followshipers (fellowship experts).<br>
><br>
> Fortunately there are still a few honest leaders. Thank God!<br>
><br>
> "The Icann Africa strategy Working Group held its retreat in Mauritius<br>
> on 27-28 August. The meeting was facilitated by ICANN and AfriNIC."<br>
> It is absolutely necessary for AWG Experts to meet physically to produce<br>
this type of document?<br>
> Please shared with us the questionnaires (Zip format) you have received.<br>
So we can make our own compilation.<br>
><br>
> ICANN really need this cinema? ICANN has really supported? What is the<br>
relationship between "ICANN Africa Strategy" and ICANN Strategy 2012-2015<br>
that you find here? :<br>
<a href="http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic/strategic-plan-2012-2015-18may12-en.pdf" target="_blank">http://www.icann.org/en/about/planning/strategic/strategic-plan-2012-2015-18may12-en.pdf</a><br>
.<br>
><br>
> Why this initiative has not been launched before the development of the<br>
strategy of ICANN?<br>
><br>
> Anyway, found my comments below (in Bleu color)...<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> ICANN Africa Strategy Working Group (ASWG)<br>
> an ICANN innovation!!!?<br>
> Assessment of ASWG questionnaires<br>
> 05 September 2012<br>
> From 10 July to 20h August the Africa Strategy working Group, which was<br>
set up by ICANN at its 44th meeting in Prague (Yes and no! There was<br>
cheating. The meeting, which creates the famous AWG has not occurred, or at<br>
least it has not known the participation of all Africans who were<br>
present.), administered a set of two questionnaires on the AfrICANN list .<br>
The pursued objective was to engage with the community on the one hand, and<br>
collect community opinions and recommendations as to the Icann Africa<br>
strategy (Why the African Union is not involved, as it was the case with<br>
dotAfrica?) on the other hand.<br>
> The questionnaires had to (two) components, each of them with subsequent<br>
sub questions : the first component sought to assess the relevance of ICANN<br>
to Africa, and also the benefits ICANN could derive from further<br>
involvement in Africa. The second component puts to test the suggestion<br>
that an ICANN's physical presence in Africa should improve the<br>
Organisation's image and activities in Africa (Africa is part of the world.<br>
And ICANN does not need a survey to be deployed in Africa. This is an<br>
insult!).<br>
> A total of 18 respondents filled out the questionnaires and were from the<br>
following constituencies and countries :<br>
> At large/Civil society/registrants : 6<br>
> - How many for At-large?<br>
> - How many for Civil Society? and their Names?<br>
> - How many for Registrants (what is the impact)?<br>
> - And non-Registrant?<br>
><br>
> Registry/registrars : 3<br>
> - How many Registry? and their Names?<br>
> - How many Registrar? and their Names?<br>
><br>
> Governments : 3<br>
> - Governments Names?<br>
> - What is the boundary between Registry and Government (in the case of<br>
Africa)?<br>
><br>
> Academia : 2<br>
> - Names?<br>
><br>
> ND (non defined) : 4<br>
> - They are aliens or Martians?<br>
><br>
><br>
> Respondents' countries included : Burkina Faso; Kenya; Nigeria; Cameroon;<br>
DRC; Tunisia; Senegal, South Africa, Tanzania , Niger, Congo and Mali.<br>
> Provide for each country a snippet showing the category of the<br>
respondents (Civil Society, Governments, Academia, etc.)<br>
><br>
> The following section of your document, to be used appropriately, it<br>
would be desirable to provide answers or clarifications to the above<br>
concerns. Especially shared with us the questionnaires (zip format). That's<br>
the openness we ask every time!<br>
><br>
> Questionnaire No1: It has been argued that ICANN can be more relevant to<br>
Africa and ICANN can benefit from increased involvement with Africa. To<br>
assist explore these please respond to the questions below<br>
> To the question 'What has ICANN done right in the eyes of the African<br>
community?' , most respondents cited the holding of ICANN's meetings every<br>
two years on the continent , on a rotational basis and the establishment of<br>
the fellowship programme which has enabled participation of more Africans<br>
to ICANN's meetings globally.<br>
> Also, a few of respondents believe that some of the basic principles that<br>
ICANN promotes so that Africa develops and maintains its Internet resources<br>
through for example maintaining geographic names and strings reserved for<br>
the right owner is the right thing that ICANN does. The effort made in<br>
translation, namely into the french language is also perceived as a good<br>
point.<br>
> 'What has ICANN not done well in Africa in the eyes of the African<br>
community within ICANN?,<br>
><br>
> Lack of or none communication of ICANN process to Africa.<br>
> Inclusion of Geographic names in the new gTLD programme;<br>
> Approving of sensitive strings against all protests from African ICANN.<br>
> There is lack of ICANN’s presence in Africa,<br>
> Poor communication and outreach on the new gTLD programme in Africa<br>
> Failure in working with African cctlds<br>
><br>
> There is lack of understanding of the Continent’s economic and<br>
developmental environment by ICANN Board and staff.<br>
> The implication of high level government members in Icann activities;<br>
> The development of African ccTLD’s and their support;<br>
> The cooperation with African regional organizations<br>
><br>
> What do you wish the most for ICANN to do in interest of Africa?<br>
><br>
> Inclusion of Africa in the activities of ICANN.<br>
> Increase the participation of Africans in ICANN constituencies, meetings<br>
by stepping up outreach programs in the Continent thereby creating the much<br>
needed awareness among the technical and business people in Africa.<br>
> Appointment of a VP for Africa.<br>
> Support, train, communicate ICANN to the African Governments and create<br>
linkages with Academia.<br>
> Build capacity for African cctlds<br>
> develop a closer link with the AF*<br>
> ICANN should listen more Africans' needs<br>
> Conduct special research on the understanding of internet and ICT<br>
business in the Continent, especially the new gTLD.<br>
> Create focus group on Africa.<br>
> Set up an Africa bureau for ICANN<br>
> Develop special waivers to facilitate accreditation of more registrars in<br>
Africa;<br>
> Reorient the JAS programme so that it could benefit African registrars<br>
and help build a local domain name industry<br>
> Promote and support sensitization campaigns, communication and training<br>
activities as related to ICANN and its programmes, using media and<br>
targeting local languages<br>
><br>
><br>
<br>
--<br>
Pierre Dandjinou<br>
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Dakar 221 77 639 30 41<br>
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