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Maybe it might help if you can suggest a constructive way forward that can build on where we are.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Please make me understand why every effort is wrong, negative and has a hidden agenda. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Hopefully after that we can also seek a way forward that has you and the silent constituency onboard.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>regards<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><img width=427 height=77 id="Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:image001.png@01CD8EC4.67AC4610" alt="Description: cid:image001.png@01CC9D2A.E8D3BE80"> </span><a href="http://www.franklincovey.com/"><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;text-decoration:none'><img border=0 width=272 height=121 id="Picture_x0020_2" src="cid:image002.jpg@01CD8EC4.67AC4610" alt="Description: Description: G:\FranklinCovey\Marketing\Email Signatures\Email_Sig_[v1.1.1]_FC3_small.jpg"></span></a><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The best time to plant a tree is 20yrs ago<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>The second best time is now<o:p></o:p></span></i></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>(chinese proverb)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> africann-bounces@afrinic.net [mailto:africann-bounces@afrinic.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lerato<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 09, 2012 7:00 PM<br><b>To:</b> otieno.barrack@gmail.com; africann@afrinic.net; africann@afrinic.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] A brief update on the ASWG<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#454545'>NB : Group members : Maimouna Diop; Palesa Banda Legozi , Nii Quaynor</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Verdana","sans-serif";color:#454545'>> (Chair), Barrack Otieno; Alice Munyua; Mouhamet Diop; Tijani Benjemaa;<br>> Michel Tchonang Linze; Pierre Dandjinou</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>You think putting together this working group above who is on one side of the aisle (or to use your term affiliation) is legitimate in your views Barrack, despite Rop at an early point of the exclusion discussion pointed out that DCA was a key player in ICANN Africa and was excluded. Why don't you simply call it "AfricaOneSpace Africa Strategy? I can see why you keep defending it now.</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>I understand such is not even in the tradition of ICANN. If this is really an ICANN supported WG, how come the WG is formed only on one side of a constituency?. The </span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>mannerism</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> of self-election and electing one's WG is typical African and not an ICANN tradition. I see why now the final WG was not circulated at an earlier time before the announcement, giving an impression there was consensus.</span><span style='font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> </span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>You guys are in hallucination. Good luck with your Africa strategy, just do not be </span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>surprised</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> when another one pops out under a different </span><span style='font-size:9.5pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>constituency. After all there was no consensus on a one .africa either</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>!<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p> </o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>--Lerato Ma</span><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif";color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:3.75pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><div><div class=MsoNormal align=center style='text-align:center;background:white'><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'><hr size=1 width="100%" align=center></span></div><p class=MsoNormal style='background:white'><b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'>From:</span></b><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Arial","sans-serif";color:black'> "<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>" <<a href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 8, 2012 11:49 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] A brief update on the ASWG</span><span style='color:black'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white'><span style='color:black'><br>I echo your sentiments Badru, let us all participate in the process.<br>Sent from my BlackBerry®<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Badru Ntege <<a href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>><br>Sender: <a href="mailto:africann-bounces@afrinic.net">africann-bounces@afrinic.net</a><br>Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 08:59:30 <br>To: <<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>><<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>><br>Reply-To: <a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a><br>Cc: <<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>><<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>><br>Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] A brief update on the ASWG<br><br>Thanks Pierre <br><br>I hope a large number of the community participates. And thus remove the myth of capture being cultivated by a few in the community. <br><br>I also hope many on the list will share with their local lists to have as many as possible participate and share views. That way we move positively forward as one majority community.<br><br>Looking forward to the website. <br><br>Badru Ntege<br>CEO <br>NFT Consult Ltd <br><a href="http://www.nftconsult.com/" target="_blank">Www.Nftconsult.com</a><br><br>“Vision without execution is hallucination.” <br>― Thomas A. Edison<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>On 9 Sep 2012, at 01:43, Dandjinou Pierre <<a href="mailto:pdandjinou@gmail.com">pdandjinou@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> Dear Listers,<br>> <br>> (NB : version francaise ci- dessous)<br>> <br>> The Icann Africa strategy Working Group held its retreat in Mauritius<br>> on 27-28 August. The meeting was facilitated by ICANN and AfriNIC.<br>> <br>> The Group of 9 (4 initial core members + 5 Reps from regions and<br>> Constituencies) had a fruitful gathering and will be posting its<br>> working documents on a dedicated website to facilitate public access.<br>> The community will then have 15 days for its further comments and<br>> submissions before the group finalizes its recommendations.<br>> <br>> The public website should be available early next week. Meanwhile, the<br>> Group wishes to thank all those who took the effort to complete the<br>> questionnaires. The evaluation of the questionnaires and primary<br>> discussions with representatives of the constituencies (Governments,<br>> Registries, registrars, registrants, ALAC, Academia..etc) allowed the<br>> group to brainstorm on strategic objectives, projects and measures of<br>> impact. A key decision of the group is to conduct further<br>> consultations and the website is going to be the conduit. You are<br>> therefore kindly requested to provide your feedback, once the site is<br>> up and running as of next week!.<br>> <br>> We are also attaching an evaluation of the questionnaires, for your information.<br>> <br>> Best regards<br>> Pierre on behalf of the ASWG<br>> <br>> NB : Group members : Maimouna Diop; Palesa Banda Legozi , Nii Quaynor<br>> (Chair), Barrack Otieno; Alice Munyua; Mouhamet Diop; Tijani Benjemaa;<br>> Michel Tchonang Linze; Pierre Dandjinou<br>> <br>> <br>> La retraite du Groupe de travail pour la strategie africaine de<br>> l'ICANN a eu lieu a Maurice du 27 au 28 Aout 2012. Elle a ete<br>> facilitee par l'ICANN et AfriNIC.<br>> <br>> Le Groupe de 9 personnes (4 initiaux et 5 autres representants les<br>> regions et constituantes de l'ICANN) a eu une rencontre fructueuse et<br>> les documents de travail generes seront postes sur un site des la<br>> semaine prochaine.La communaute disposera alors de 15 jours pour ses<br>> commentaires et propositions, avant que le groupe ne finalise ses<br>> recommandations.<br>> <br>> Le Groupe remercie ceux qui ont pri sur eux de remplir les<br>> questionnaires. Sur la base de l'evaluation des questionnaires, et des<br>> discussions tenues avec des representants de diveres constituantes<br>> (Gouvernements, registres, registraires, registrants,ALAC et autres),<br>> a pu mener ses discussions et retenir quelques objectifs strateiques,<br>> des idees de projets ainsi que des criteres d'evaluation..Une decision<br>> majeure du groupe est de poursuivre l'engagement avec la communaute<br>> par le biais du site web. Merci donc de le visiter des la semaine<br>> prochaine et d'y apporter vos remarques et suggestions.<br>> <br>> Enfin, pour votre information, nous attachons l'evaluation des<br>> questionnaires recus.<br>> <br>> Sinceres salutations<br>> <br>> Pierre pour le ASWG<br>> <br>> NB : membre du Groupe : Maimouna Diop; Palesa Banda Legozi , Nii<br>> Quaynor (Chair), Barrack Otieno; Alice Munyua; Mouhamet Diop; Tijani<br>> Benjemaa; Michel Tchonang Linze; Pierre Dandjinou<br>> <Assessment.doc><br>> _______________________________________________<br>> AfrICANN mailing list<br>> <a href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net">AfrICANN@afrinic.net</a><br>> <a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann </a><br>_______________________________________________<br>AfrICANN mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net">AfrICANN@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann </a><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>AfrICANN mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net">AfrICANN@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann</a><br><br><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></body></html>