<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:arial, helvetica, sans-serif;font-size:10pt"><blockquote style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; margin: 0px 0px 0px 40px; border: none; padding: 0px; "><div><span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14.399999618530273px; "><br></span></span></div><div style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-size: 14.399999618530273px; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><span style="color: rgb(31, 73, 125); font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; font-size: 14.399999618530273px; ">Please make me understand why every effort is wrong, negative and has a hidden agenda. </span> </span></div></blockquote><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.600000381469727px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal;
"><span><br></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; "><span><span><span><span><span><span><span style="font-size: 13.600000381469727px;">Mr. Badru- you seem to always play the role of réconciliateur chef, but you are infamous for having echoed loudly at all times that DCA is not part of the "community" you have been working with. DCA has finally learned to accept not being accepted in your group, however very cautious not to be excluded as Africans who want to contribute genuinely to the Continent.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13.600000381469727px; "><span><span><span><span><span><span><span><br></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span></div><div
style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13.600000381469727px; "><span><span><span><span><span><span><span>If you do not want us in your group and deliberately design WGs to exclude us, there must be a reason of one of your above mentions? and whatever Africa Strategy your group develops if at ICANN level, will have to be either subject to the scrutiny of our group so you do not impose your views on us, and or we should be left alone to develop our own under the same umbrella. At least at the ICANN level, we know we should not be excluded.</span></span></span></span></span></span></span></span><span style="background-color: transparent; font-size: 13.600000381469727px; "><span><span><span> </span></span></span></span></div><div style="background-color:
transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent; "><br></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent; ">Some of us refuse to accept whereby Internet </span><span style="background-color: transparent; ">Governance</span><span style="background-color: transparent; "> matters for Africa are run by few Africans who have self-elected themselves and their WGs. Just like ICANN has grown in the past 10 years to where it is, the landscape for the African groupings at ICANN has also grown. It was </span><span style="background-color: transparent; ">interesting</span><span style="background-color: transparent; "> to see some of the CORE
group of the WG were not even active ICANN participants for the past years or on this list.</span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent; "><br></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent; ">Finally, what you need to learn Badru is that instead of trying to run </span><span style="background-color: transparent; ">consensus</span><span style="background-color: transparent; "> by a "</span><span style="background-color: transparent; ">majorly community voice</span><span style="background-color: transparent; ">" that you always try and institute to win your case at all times, try for a change to
</span><span style="background-color: transparent; ">run it like a </span><span style="background-color: transparent; ">democracy - all inclusive, participatory, and ensuring that voices of </span><span style="background-color: transparent; ">dissent</span><span style="background-color: transparent; "> are represented, including making them part of the CORE.</span><span style="background-color: transparent; "> But that is </span><span style="background-color: transparent; ">like having a one <.africa> it </span><span style="background-color: transparent; ">probably</span><span style="background-color: transparent; "> wont work! We might as well agree to disagree here.</span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent;
"><br></span></div><div style="background-color: transparent; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-size: 13.600000381469727px; font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-style: normal; "><span style="background-color: transparent; ">my </span><span style="background-color: transparent; ">tuppence</span><br></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 13.600000381469727px; color: rgb(0, 0, 0); background-color: transparent; font-style: normal; "><span><br></span></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; "> --Lerato Ma</div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; "><br></div><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; "><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid rgb(16, 16, 255); margin-left: 5px; margin-top: 5px; padding-left: 5px;"> <div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 10pt; "> <div
style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Badru Ntege <badru.ntege@nftconsult.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> 'Lerato' <yes2dotafrica@dotconnectafrica.org>; africann@afrinic.net; otieno.barrack@gmail.com <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Sunday, September 9, 2012 9:55 AM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> RE: [AfrICANN-discuss] A brief update on the ASWG<br> </font> </div> <br>
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--></style><div><div class="yiv1347949314WordSection1"><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Lerato</span></div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Though I’m trying very hard to understand your sentiments, I’m having a hard time. Maybe it might help if you can suggest a constructive way forward that can build on where we are.</span></div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Please make me
understand why every effort is wrong, negative and has a hidden agenda. </span></div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Hopefully after that we can also seek a way forward that has you and the silent constituency onboard.</span></div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">regards</span></div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "><img width="427" height="77" id="yiv1347949314Picture_x0020_1" src="cid:1.644581853@web184901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com" alt="Description: cid:image001.png@01CC9D2A.E8D3BE80"> </span><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.franklincovey.com/"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); text-decoration: none; "><img border="0" width="272" height="121" id="yiv1347949314Picture_x0020_2"
src="cid:2.644581854@web184901.mail.gq1.yahoo.com" alt="Description: Description: G:\FranklinCovey\Marketing\Email Signatures\Email_Sig_[v1.1.1]_FC3_small.jpg"></span></a><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "></span></div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">The best time to plant a tree is 20yrs ago</span></i></div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"><i><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">The second best time is now</span></i></div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">(chinese proverb)</span></div></div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div><div
style="border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0in 0in 0in;"><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; "> africann-bounces@afrinic.net [mailto:africann-bounces@afrinic.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Lerato<br><b>Sent:</b> Sunday, September 09, 2012 7:00 PM<br><b>To:</b> otieno.barrack@gmail.com; africann@afrinic.net; africann@afrinic.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] A brief update on the ASWG</span></div></div></div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"> </div><div><div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); ">NB : Group members : Maimouna Diop; Palesa Banda Legozi , Nii
Quaynor</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "></span></div></div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Verdana, sans-serif; color: rgb(69, 69, 69); ">> (Chair), Barrack Otieno; Alice Munyua; Mouhamet Diop; Tijani Benjemaa;<br>> Michel Tchonang Linze; Pierre Dandjinou</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "></span></div><div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">You think putting together this working group above who is on one side of the aisle (or to use your term affiliation) is legitimate in your views Barrack, despite Rop at an early point of
the exclusion discussion pointed out that DCA was a key player in ICANN Africa and was excluded. Why don't you simply call it "AfricaOneSpace Africa Strategy? I can see why you keep defending it now.</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "></span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">I understand such is not even in the tradition of ICANN. If this is really an ICANN supported WG, how come the WG is formed only on one side of a constituency?. The </span><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">mannerism</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "> of
self-election and electing one's WG is typical African and not an ICANN tradition. I see why now the final WG was not circulated at an earlier time before the announcement, giving an impression there was consensus.</span><span style="font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "> </span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">You guys are in hallucination. Good luck with your Africa strategy, just do not be </span><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">surprised</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "> when another one pops out under a different </span><span style="font-size: 9.5pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">constituency. After all there was no consensus on a one .africa either</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black;
">!</span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "> </span></div></div><div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">--Lerato Ma</span><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: black; "></span></div></div><div><blockquote style="border:none;border-left:solid #1010FF 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:3.75pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt;"><div><div><div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal" align="center" style="text-align:center;background:white;"><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "><hr size="1" width="100%" align="center"></span></div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal" style="background:white;"><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; ">From:</span></b><span
style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Arial, sans-serif; color: black; "> "<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:otieno.barrack@gmail.com">otieno.barrack@gmail.com</a>><br><b>To:</b> <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a> <br><b>Sent:</b> Saturday, September 8, 2012 11:49 PM<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] A brief update on the ASWG</span><span style="color:black;"></span></div></div><div class="yiv1347949314MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt;background:white;"><span style="color:black;"><br>I echo your sentiments Badru, let us all participate in the process.<br>Sent from my BlackBerry®<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Badru Ntege <<a
rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>><br>Sender: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:africann-bounces@afrinic.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:africann-bounces@afrinic.net">africann-bounces@afrinic.net</a><br>Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 08:59:30 <br>To: <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>><<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>><br>Reply-To: <a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a><br>Cc: <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>><<a rel="nofollow"
ymailto="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>><br>Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] A brief update on the ASWG<br><br>Thanks Pierre <br><br>I hope a large number of the community participates. And thus remove the myth of capture being cultivated by a few in the community. <br><br>I also hope many on the list will share with their local lists to have as many as possible participate and share views. That way we move positively forward as one majority community.<br><br>Looking forward to the website. <br><br>Badru Ntege<br>CEO <br>NFT Consult Ltd <br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.nftconsult.com/">Www.Nftconsult.com</a><br><br>“Vision without execution is hallucination.” <br>― Thomas A. Edison<br><br><br><br><br><br><br>On 9 Sep 2012, at 01:43, Dandjinou Pierre <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:pdandjinou@gmail.com" target="_blank"
href="mailto:pdandjinou@gmail.com">pdandjinou@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br>> Dear Listers,<br>> <br>> (NB : version francaise ci- dessous)<br>> <br>> The Icann Africa strategy Working Group held its retreat in Mauritius<br>> on 27-28 August. The meeting was facilitated by ICANN and AfriNIC.<br>> <br>> The Group of 9 (4 initial core members + 5 Reps from regions and<br>> Constituencies) had a fruitful gathering and will be posting its<br>> working documents on a dedicated website to facilitate public access.<br>> The community will then have 15 days for its further comments and<br>> submissions before the group finalizes its recommendations.<br>> <br>> The public website should be available early next week. Meanwhile, the<br>> Group wishes to thank all those who took the effort to complete the<br>> questionnaires. The evaluation of the questionnaires and primary<br>> discussions with representatives
of the constituencies (Governments,<br>> Registries, registrars, registrants, ALAC, Academia..etc) allowed the<br>> group to brainstorm on strategic objectives, projects and measures of<br>> impact. A key decision of the group is to conduct further<br>> consultations and the website is going to be the conduit. You are<br>> therefore kindly requested to provide your feedback, once the site is<br>> up and running as of next week!.<br>> <br>> We are also attaching an evaluation of the questionnaires, for your information.<br>> <br>> Best regards<br>> Pierre on behalf of the ASWG<br>> <br>> NB : Group members : Maimouna Diop; Palesa Banda Legozi , Nii Quaynor<br>> (Chair), Barrack Otieno; Alice Munyua; Mouhamet Diop; Tijani Benjemaa;<br>> Michel Tchonang Linze; Pierre Dandjinou<br>> <br>> <br>> La retraite du Groupe de travail pour la strategie africaine de<br>> l'ICANN a eu lieu a Maurice du 27 au 28
Aout 2012. Elle a ete<br>> facilitee par l'ICANN et AfriNIC.<br>> <br>> Le Groupe de 9 personnes (4 initiaux et 5 autres representants les<br>> regions et constituantes de l'ICANN) a eu une rencontre fructueuse et<br>> les documents de travail generes seront postes sur un site des la<br>> semaine prochaine.La communaute disposera alors de 15 jours pour ses<br>> commentaires et propositions, avant que le groupe ne finalise ses<br>> recommandations.<br>> <br>> Le Groupe remercie ceux qui ont pri sur eux de remplir les<br>> questionnaires. Sur la base de l'evaluation des questionnaires, et des<br>> discussions tenues avec des representants de diveres constituantes<br>> (Gouvernements, registres, registraires, registrants,ALAC et autres),<br>> a pu mener ses discussions et retenir quelques objectifs strateiques,<br>> des idees de projets ainsi que des criteres d'evaluation..Une decision<br>> majeure du groupe
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