<p style="margin-left:40px" class="MsoNormal"></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><b><font>Official response by DotConnectAfrica to Brian's post on
behalf of Alice on KICTANET</font></b></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:left"><font><b><span><br></span></b><span></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:left"><font><b><span> <u>First,</u></span></b><span> the deliberate <b><u>distortion that
AUC/UniForum has submitted an application for .AFRICA is unwarranted
and quite misleading,</u></b> and this should not be <b>treated as 'fact'</b>.
The true fact is that the AUC is not an applicant. Only UniForum is the
applicant acknowledged by ICANN. Therefore, it is <b>untruthful and rather
disingenuous on your part to present the AUC as an applicant - either as a co-
or joint applicant to UniForum</b>. Everyone should know that the AU has not
applied to ICANN for anything, so there is no AUC application the way that you
have been distorting 'facts' to suit your purpose.<br><br></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:left"><font><span> <b><u>Second,</u></b>
though you have listed many things, the most important thing that you have
left out is that the <b><i>UniForum application was not submitted on
behalf of either the African Union Commission, African governments,
the African Community or African Internet Community</i></b>. You
should have listed this as '<b>fact'</b>, but you have not. Therefore<b>, <u>there
is actually no community ownership of the Applied-for string </u></b>so your
use of the term <b><i>'official AUC endorsed application for the dotAfrica
(.Africa) Top Level Domain</i></b>' is rather <b>specious and a misnomer</b>.
Against this background, how is the UniForum application, in
your estimation, <b><i>"a collaborative African initiative"?</i></b>
One would expect at least that if it is a collaborative African
initiative, <b><i>then the ownership of the TLD by the community should have
been properly demonstrated by a community application conveyed as an
application on behalf of the African Community for a .AFRICA Community TLD</i></b>.
</span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:left"><font><span> In
the absence of this, we still see the UniForum application as a <b><u>deceptive
ploy</u></b> that used the purported support of the AU Commission to
garner support from African governments to enable them provide support for an
application that <b>will benefit a special interest group</b>. <b><i><u>The
way we see it is quite simple: DCA Trust will continue to expose this fraud for
what it truly is</u></i></b>. If the AUC provided support to UniForum to
apply on behalf of the African Community, then we believe that “<b><i><u>a
Community TLD application</u></i></b> “for .AFRICA should have been submitted
by UniForum to ICAN<span style="background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% white">N.<br><br></span></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:left"><font><span> <b><u><span style="background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% white">Third,</span></u></b><span style="background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% white">
you seem to make much of a process that was "<b><u>mandated by
African Heads of State (OR Tambo Declaration) and African Minister’s in charge
of ICT (Abuja Declaration)" to justify your 'facts'</u></b>. Would these
African Heads of States and Ministers <b><i>not demand some form of
accountability regarding why a community TLD application for .Africa was
not submitted by Uniforum?</i></b> Since you seem to know many
facts regarding the so-called 'African Union Commission (.Africa) application,
perhaps you should help clarify for everyone's benefit why a Community TLD
application for .Africa was not submitted by Uniforum.</span></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:left"><font><span style="background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% white"> </span><span></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:left"><font><b><u><span style="background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% white">Fourth,</span></u></b><span style="background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% white"> you have tried to make much over the fact that the <b>UniForum
application is AU-supported</b>, and that <b>the "application meets
and exceeds, the minimum evaluation criteria set by ICANN for application of
Geographic strings." Alas, the evaluation is not only on the basis
of the evaluation criteria for 'geographic strings'</b>. The evaluation
criteria is actually more comprehensive, and covers a wide range of issues such
as <b><i><u>technical, operational, financial criteria; coupled with terms
& conditions, legal issues, etc.</u></i></b> We remain confident that
the Uniforum application will fail based on the scope of
its separate agreement with the African Union Commission. We prefer
to leave such issues to the Evaluation and the outcome of any Dispute
Resolution.<br><br></span><span></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:left"><font><span> <b><u><span style="background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% white">Fifth,</span></u></b><span style="background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% white">
the application submitted by DCA Trust is for the geographic name 'AFRICA',
pronounced as 'DotAfrica'. <b><u>This is for a 6-character ASCII string</u></b>.
The application submitted by DCA Trust was correctly designated by ICANN as
referring to a geographic name. Your understanding that it is for
'dotdotAfrica' is incorrect. Our published part of application is posted
and available here </span></span><a href="http://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/applicationdetails/1276" target="_blank">http://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/applicationdetails/1276</a><br>
</font>
<font><span><span style="background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% white">
</span><span style="background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% yellow"><br>
</span><b><u><span style="background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% white">Finally</span></u></b><span style="background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% white">, it is important for us to note that you have become <b>openly
supportive of the UniForum application</b>, and we therefore hope that you will
not <b><u>use any of your official affiliations either within the Kenyan
government or the ICANN GAC</u></b> to influence things in their favour. We
caution you not to be official or unofficial spokesperson of UniForum, and
allow the applications that have been submitted to ICANN to be evaluated fairly
without any undue interference on your part or on the part of the group that
you now seem to represent in the most unabashed manner .<br><br></span></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:left"><font><font><span style="background:none repeat scroll 0% 0% white">DotConnectAfrica.</span></font><span></span></font></p>
<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:left"><font><span> </span></font></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:left">
<u>Brian's Posting Below:</u></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:left"><br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:left">
<br></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:0.0001pt;line-height:normal;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;text-align:left"><font face="Arial"><b><span style="font-weight:bold">From:</span></b> Brian Munyao Longwe <<a href="mailto:blongwe@gmail.com" target="_blank">blongwe@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">To:</span></b> <a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank">africann@afrinic.net</a> <br> <b><span style="font-weight:bold">Sent:</span></b> Thursday, July 26, 2012 9:53 PM<br>
<b><span style="font-weight:bold">Subject:</span></b> Re: Fw: [AfrICANN-discuss] Help with .africa history<br>
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</p><div><span style="border-collapse:collapse;font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-size:13px"><div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><b>Facts Regarding the African Union Commission (.Africa) application</b></div>
<div style="margin-top:0px;margin-right:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px"><b><span> </span></b></div><div style="text-align:justify"><span><span>1.<span> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt">The
African Union Commission’s (AUC) involvement in the dotAfrica (.Africa)
Top Level Domain (TLD) process has been mandated by African Heads of
State (OR Tambo Declaration) and African Minister’s in charge of ICT
(Abuja Declaration).</span></div>
<div style="text-align:justify"><span><span>2.<span> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt">In
fulfilling its mandate the AUC has, in accordance with an open and
transparent Request for Proposal (RFP) process, officially endorsed
UniForum SA t/a the ZA Central Registry (ZACR) to apply for and launch
the dotAfrica (.Africa) TLD.</span></div>
<div style="text-align:justify"><span><span>3.<span> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt">The
AUC/ZACR, in accordance with the procedures and standards prescribed by
the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (ICANN), has
officially lodged an application with ICANN for the delegation of the
(.Africa), under reference number: 1-1243-89583. This application
constitutes the official AUC endorsed application for the dotAfrica
(.Africa) Top Level Domain. <span> </span>Further details of this official application is available at:<span> </span></span><span><a href="http://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/applicationdetails/1184" target="_blank">http://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/applicationdetails/1184</a> </span><span style="font-size:11pt"><span> </span></span></div>
<div style="text-align:justify"><span><span>4.<span> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt">There
is a competing private application, for a confusingly similar string,
lodged by DotConnectAfrica Trust. The application for the dotdotAfrica
(.dotAfrica) TLD string, under reference number 1-1165-42560.</span></div>
<div style="text-align:justify"><span><span>5.<span> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt">The
AUC/ZACR’s application meets and exceeds, the minimum evaluation
criteria set by ICANN for application of Geographic strings.</span></div>
<div style="text-align:justify"><span><span>6.<span> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt">The
AUC/ZACR’s application, is correctly designated as a geographic
application in accordance with the criteria and processes outlined in
ICANN’s Applicant Guidebook.</span></div>
<div style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:11pt">In particular:<span> </span><i>Africa
(and therefore .Africa) is a clearly designated geographic area as
defined in the UNESCO “Composition of macro geographical (continental)
regions, geographical sub-regions, and selected economic and other
groupings” list (<a href="http://unstats.un.org/unsd/methods/m49/m49regin.htm" target="_blank">http://unstats.un.org/unsd/methods/m49/m49regin.htm</a>).</i>Therefore
the designation of the official dotAfrica (.Africa) TLD string
application, as a geographic name, is technically and procedurally
correct. The "geographic evaluation process" that this application is
subject to provides sufficient checks and balances for the protection of
interests and rights of African governments and the pan-African
community.<span> </span></span></div>
<div style="text-align:justify"><span><span>7.<span> </span></span></span><span style="font-size:11pt">The
AUC endorsed dotAfrica (.Africa) application has been, and continues to
be, a collaborative African initiative involving African governments,
ICT stakeholders and the broader African community.</span></div>
<div style="text-align:justify"><span style="font-size:11pt">In this
regard the stated mission and objective of the AUC’s officially endorsed
application is enshrined in its answers to question 18 of the
Application, which is publicly available on the ICANN New gTLD website </span><span style="font-size:11pt"><a rel="nofollow" href="http://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/applicationdetails/1184" target="_blank">http://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/applicationdetails/1184</a></span><span><span> </span><span></span></span></div>
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<font><br style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif"></font><br><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 9:18 AM, <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:africann-request@afrinic.net" target="_blank">africann-request@afrinic.net</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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1. Re: [***SPAM***] [AfrICANN-discuss] Fwd: [AfrICANN-44] Africa<br>
Strategic plan (McTim)<br>
2. Re: Fw: [AfrICANN-discuss] Help with .africa history<br>
(Brian Munyao Longwe)<br>
3. Re: Help with .africa history (Seun Ojedeji)<br>
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Date: Thu, 26 Jul 2012 23:08:11 -0400<br>
From: McTim <<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com" target="_blank">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [***SPAM***] [AfrICANN-discuss] Fwd: [AfrICANN-44] Africa<br>
Strategic plan<br>
To: Sophia Bekele <<a href="mailto:sophiabekele@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sophiabekele@yahoo.com</a>>, <a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank">africann@afrinic.net</a><br>
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Hi Sophia,<br>
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On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 9:15 PM, Sophia Bekele <<a href="mailto:sophiabekele@yahoo.com" target="_blank">sophiabekele@yahoo.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> McTim-<br>
> I actually responded to you yesterday on this matter, you could not have<br>
> seen it, since it was not posted, also my question on the UN.<br>
<br>
<br>
I see the confusion now, when I said un-moderated that means NOT moderated.<br>
<br>
I read your UN moderated list as "United Nations".<br>
<br>
So while I have your attention, is it actually the case that DCA meant<br>
to apply for .africa but do to a typo, you have actually applied for<br>
.DotAfrica?<br>
<br>
In the interests of transparency and openness, I would be curious to<br>
see any correspondence on this issue between ICANN and DCA.<br>
<br>
At the moment, I am confused as to what has actually been applied for<br>
(and perhaps ICANN is as well).<br>
<br>
<br>
--<br>
Cheers,<br>
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McTim<br>
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route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel<br>
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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 07:53:33 +0300<br>
From: Brian Munyao Longwe <<a href="mailto:blongwe@gmail.com" target="_blank">blongwe@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: Fw: [AfrICANN-discuss] Help with .africa history<br>
To: <a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank">africann@afrinic.net</a><br>
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*Facts Regarding the African Union Commission (.Africa) application*<br>
<br>
* *<br>
<br>
1. The African Union Commission’s (AUC) involvement in the dotAfrica<br>
(.Africa) Top Level Domain (TLD) process has been mandated by African Heads<br>
of State (OR Tambo Declaration) and African Minister’s in charge of ICT<br>
(Abuja Declaration).****<br>
<br>
2. In fulfilling its mandate the AUC has, in accordance with an open and<br>
transparent Request for Proposal (RFP) process, officially endorsed<br>
UniForum SA t/a the ZA Central Registry (ZACR) to apply for and launch the<br>
dotAfrica (.Africa) TLD.****<br>
<br>
3. The AUC/ZACR, in accordance with the procedures and standards<br>
prescribed by the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers<br>
(ICANN), has officially lodged an application with ICANN for the delegation<br>
of the (.Africa), under reference number: 1-1243-89583. This application<br>
constitutes the official AUC endorsed application for the dotAfrica<br>
(.Africa) Top Level Domain. Further details of this official application<br>
is available at:****<br>
<a href="http://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/applicationdetails/1184" target="_blank">http://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/applicationdetails/1184</a><br>
****<br>
<br>
4. There is a competing private application, for a confusingly similar<br>
string, lodged by DotConnectAfrica Trust. The application for the<br>
dotdotAfrica (.dotAfrica) TLD string, under reference number 1-1165-42560.**<br>
**<br>
<br>
5. The AUC/ZACR’s application meets and exceeds, the minimum evaluation<br>
criteria set by ICANN for application of Geographic strings.****<br>
<br>
6. The AUC/ZACR’s application, is correctly designated as a geographic<br>
application in accordance with the criteria and processes outlined in<br>
ICANN’s Applicant Guidebook.****<br>
<br>
In particular: *Africa (and therefore .Africa) is a clearly designated<br>
geographic area as defined in the UNESCO “Composition of macro geographical<br>
(continental) regions, geographical sub-regions, and selected economic and<br>
other groupings” list (<a href="http://unstats.un.org/unsd/methods/m49/m49regin.htm" target="_blank">http://unstats.un.org/unsd/methods/m49/m49regin.htm</a>).<br>
*Therefore the designation of the official dotAfrica (.Africa) TLD string<br>
application, as a geographic name, is technically and procedurally correct.<br>
The "geographic evaluation process" that this application is subject to<br>
provides sufficient checks and balances for the protection of interests and<br>
rights of African governments and the pan-African community. **<br>
<br>
7. The AUC endorsed dotAfrica (.Africa) application has been, and<br>
continues to be, a collaborative African initiative involving African<br>
governments, ICT stakeholders and the broader African community.****<br>
<br>
In this regard the stated mission and objective of the AUC’s officially<br>
endorsed application is enshrined in its answers to question 18 of the<br>
Application, which is publicly available on the ICANN New gTLD website<br>
<a href="http://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/applicationdetails/1184" target="_blank">http://gtldresult.icann.org/application-result/applicationstatus/applicationdetails/1184</a><br>
****<br>
<br>
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On Fri, Jul 27, 2012 at 4:17 AM, Dr Yassin Mshana <<a href="mailto:ymshana2003@gmail.com" target="_blank">ymshana2003@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
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> Hi<br>
> In this world, Diplomacy matters a great deal - may stop wars or start<br>
> wars when it fails.<br>
><br>
> From what have reading and based on the trend of events... there is a<br>
> belief that the AU was not used/misused properly - why was it important to<br>
> run to AU before the African Community which AU represents as an<br>
> Organisation?<br>
><br>
> I wish to absolve AU from this saga since I am convinced to believe that<br>
> the Advisory to AU 'is in persons' were or are involved in the <.africa><br>
> saga.<br>
><br>
> In addition, it is difficult to rule out that to 'hold' a<br>
> meeting purported to be between AU and ICANN 44 in Prague is a simple<br>
> thing to do without the necessary sanctions - to dig deeper I for one<br>
> would like t ask, "was such type of meetings in the standing schedules of<br>
> AU?" this is question which is seeking for enlightenment.<br>
><br>
> To dig deeper for facts, was the meeting in Prague scheduled as per AU<br>
> mandate ? that is short of asking similar question to what happened during<br>
> ICANN-43 Dakar when Hon Ministers were in attendance. The Diplomacy of the<br>
> Internet seems to be different whereby a meeting may take place without<br>
> observing the protocol of letting all know? OR were the Meetings of<br>
> extraordinary strategic importance that we know about them later?<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 27 July 2012 00:24, McTim <<a href="mailto:dogwallah@gmail.com" target="_blank">dogwallah@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 11:19 AM, Y Mshana2003 <<a href="mailto:ymshana2003@gmail.com" target="_blank">ymshana2003@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> My problem is the way the AU was brought in and used in this saga..<br>
>>><br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> How would you have done it?<br>
>><br>
>> The Guidebook didn't specify HOW it would be done, and that is perhaps<br>
>> something that we can blame ICANN for (since ICANN is ourselves however, we<br>
>> only have ourselves to blame).<br>
>><br>
>> --<br>
>> Cheers,<br>
>><br>
>> McTim<br>
>> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A route<br>
>> indicates how we get there." Jon Postel<br>
>><br>
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Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2012 07:06:41 +0100<br>
From: Seun Ojedeji <<a href="mailto:seun.ojedeji@gmail.com" target="_blank">seun.ojedeji@gmail.com</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Help with .africa history<br>
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Thanks Badru,<br>
<br>
Your comment is the take home for me; I agree that politics exists in other<br>
continent however I also like to note that there is just something distinct<br>
about that of Africa! Why for instance do we need to have two applications<br>
for the same initiative, can't we just collectively agree on one thing and<br>
do the pushing in the same direction. May plead that the oldies amongst us<br>
help we young generation set a stand on this...let's begin to have an era<br>
in Africa where we disagree to agree on issues. The death of the president<br>
of Ghana and the smooth transitional process gives my hope for Africa!<br>
Let's stop this disagreeing to disagree model...our collective work should<br>
speak louder and not us speaking for our personal motives!<br>
<br>
Cheers!<br>
<br>
OJ<br>
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On Jul 26, 2012 4:00 PM, "Badru Ntege" <<a href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com" target="_blank">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Members<br>
><br>
> It pains me to see that we are all here with the best of intentions but<br>
> seem to have a hard time sharing the same vision which is the digital<br>
> emancipation of our beloved continent. In a world of many independent and<br>
> committed individuals we have to be prepared to seek synergy. Not a win<br>
> loose position but win win positions. In this continent of billions with<br>
> so much to do why do we spend too much of our energies fighting battles<br>
> where they will be no winners.<br>
><br>
> .africa or dotafrica whichever tld ends up being licensed is to serve the<br>
> african community. So let's start sharing how we will do this and exert<br>
> less of our energies in historical battles.<br>
><br>
> Individual battles need to end.<br>
><br>
> My 2 bits<br>
><br>
> Badru Ntege<br>
> CEO<br>
> NFT Consult Ltd<br>
> <a href="http://Www.Nftconsult.com" target="_blank">Www.Nftconsult.com</a><br>
><br>
> "Vision without execution is hallucination."<br>
> -- Thomas A. Edison<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On 26 Jul 2012, at 10:35, Dr Yassin Mshana <<a href="mailto:ymshana2003@gmail.com" target="_blank">ymshana2003@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> Even me I am getting tired of repeating myself - there should be no War -<br>
> it is only a matter of Fair Competition!<br>
><br>
> Bringing in AU in the competition is wrong, worse even is including GAC in<br>
> this business area. These bodies have their specific mandate - overwhelming<br>
> issues and initiatives need to be sorted by them eg. NEPAD, ICT Development<br>
> etc.<br>
><br>
> The poison was put in the well when groupings started to emerge and when<br>
> AU was misused/misdirected! As an African one could not stay quiet while<br>
> bullying and character assassinations are taking place...?<br>
><br>
> Good day everyone<br>
><br>
> Yassin<br>
><br>
> On 26 July 2012 07:22, Kivuva <<a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com" target="_blank">Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
>> It seems the art of war by Sun Tzu is playing quite well with the .africa<br>
>> gTLD. With the war of words going round, its hard to ascertain who is right<br>
>> of wrong.<br>
>><br>
>> But all the same, it has been said over and over again, .africa being a<br>
>> geographical string, the winner will be the one who has the blessings of<br>
>> the African community, and AU has put one foot into the fray.<br>
>><br>
>> Is there an africawide GAC committee? If yes, what it's stand?<br>
>><br>
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