<html><body><div style="color:#000; background-color:#fff; font-family:times new roman, new york, times, serif;font-size:12pt"><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><span>Hi Remmy-</span></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><span><br></span></div><div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "><span>Thanks for this useful info. There is also one that sees the glass half full;) </span><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Here is a recent </span><span>article:</span></div><div><span><a href="http://www.circleid.com/posts/20120626_icann_has_opened_up_opportunities_for_everyone_including_africa/" style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; ">http://www.circleid.com/posts/20120626_icann_has_opened_up_opportunities_for_everyone_including_africa/</a></span></div><div><span
style="font-size: 12pt; "><br></span></div><div><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">I agree with your article that registry and </span><span style="font-size: 16px; ">registrars</span><span><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> should be </span><span style="font-size: 16px;">promoting</span><span><span style="font-size: 12pt;"> domian names in Africa, but I am afraid that AfriNic's mandate does not call for that, as they are in the business of IP addressing and those two areas are to be kept separate to my understanding. </span></span></span></div><div><span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">Whatever the perspective, Africa internet </span><span style="font-size: 16px;">societies learn to </span><span style="font-size: 12pt;">open up its business potential by bringing new groups to participate instead of </span></span><span style="font-size: 16px; ">chocking</span><span style="font-size: 12pt; "> up what exists in a
monopoly. </span><br></div><div><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">Those are thoughts for now.</span></div><div><span style="font-size: 12pt; ">--Lerato Ma</span></div> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "> <div style="font-family: 'times new roman', 'new york', times, serif; font-size: 12pt; "> <div dir="ltr"> <font size="2" face="Arial"> <hr size="1"> <b><span style="font-weight:bold;">From:</span></b> Remmy Nweke <remmyn@gmail.com><br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">To:</span></b> africann@afrinic.net <br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Sent:</span></b> Friday, July 6, 2012 6:11 PM<br> <b><span style="font-weight: bold;">Subject:</span></b> [AfrICANN-discuss] Still on new gTLD<br> </font> </div> <br><meta http-equiv="x-dns-prefetch-control" content="off"><div id="yiv35295925">This may be of interest to some of us.<br><a rel="nofollow" target="_blank"
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1. Re: Help with .africa history ("Michele Neylon :: Blacknight")<br>
2. Re: Help with .africa history (Dr Yassin Mshana)<br>
3. Re: Help with .africa history ("Michele Neylon :: Blacknight")<br>
4. Re: Help with .africa history (Calvin Browne)<br>
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From: "\"Michele Neylon :: Blacknight\"" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:michele@blacknight.ie" target="_blank" href="mailto:michele@blacknight.ie">michele@blacknight.ie</a>><br>
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On 3 Jul 2012, at 08:25, Nigel Roberts wrote:<br>
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> As I was one of the European Council Members for the DNSO (before it split into ccNSO and GNSO) I can confirm Calvin is correct - when he says it was normal that the ccTLD Constitutency considered a newTLD proposal that was presented to the DNSO this was entirely in line with the ICANN structure.<br>
><br>
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><br>
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> Nigel<br>
><br>
> PS: ICANN was smaller then. Interestingly although (as a ccTLD manager) I strongly support the historical reboot of ICANN, the increase in influece that the creation of a separate Supporting Organisation brought to the ccTLDs, was a tradeoff at the expense of useful cross-fertilisation with gTLD people IMO<br>
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And there's still a rather deep separation between the two groups today .. GNSO and ccNSO don't talk to each other that much - which is a pity<br>
<br>
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> On 03/07/12 09:06, Brian Munyao Longwe wrote:<br>
>> Calvin,<br>
>><br>
>> Thanks for refreshing (all of our memories) on some of the less<br>
>> noticeable and easy to be missed aspects of the .africa history.<br>
>><br>
>> Best regards,<br>
>><br>
>> Brian<br>
>><br>
>> On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Calvin Browne <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:calvin@orange-tree.alt.za" target="_blank" href="mailto:calvin@orange-tree.alt.za">calvin@orange-tree.alt.za</a><br>
>> <mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:calvin@orange-tree.alt.za" target="_blank" href="mailto:calvin@orange-tree.alt.za">calvin@orange-tree.alt.za</a>>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> On 02/07/2012 16:37, Dr Yassin Mshana wrote:<br>
>>> Hello Africans,<br>
>>><br>
>>> I think we are getting somewhere now.<br>
>>><br>
>>> How comes no one knows anything about <.africa> issues in the past?<br>
>><br>
>> It's simple - they came after this happened, or their memories are<br>
>> fading.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>><br>
>>> Can we accurate please? That will be the misleading information<br>
>>> that I had mentioned to Rebecca.<br>
>><br>
>> Agreed - which is why I'm providing references (which took some time<br>
>> to dig up).<br>
>><br>
>>><br>
>>> I know and remember that the issue of <.africa> did not come up<br>
>>> and should not have been considered by ccTLD (ccNSO) constituent<br>
>>> since there is and was gTLD Constituent which was responsible for<br>
>>> that issue.<br>
>><br>
>> Not entirely correct.<br>
>> There was a DNSO (Domain Name Support Organisation) which had<br>
>> several 'constituencies'. Only later did the cc's organise into a<br>
>> separate Supporting Organisation (I think it was first mooted in<br>
>> Stockholm). So, basically, the cc's only had a 'separate' voice<br>
>> later. Until the ccNSO was formed, everything they did was<br>
>> channelled through the DNSO, now the GNSO.<br>
>> As I mainly hung out in the cc group, it was the logical place for<br>
>> me to get some opposition to what was, in my eyes, a recolonisation<br>
>> attempt.<br>
>> I was not alone in this effort - and lots of other people, Africans<br>
>> and non-Africans were involved in this opposition.<br>
>><br>
>>><br>
>>> May I suggest that we provide accurate information please? If one<br>
>>> does not know - just say so please - the issues was beyond your<br>
>>> mandate. Fellow Africans, let us be professional by giving<br>
>>> accurate information to the journalist please! No room for<br>
>>> anything else but a True Story...<br>
>><br>
>> Well - you're welcome to believe a woman who arrived half way on the<br>
>> scene, and implemented a business plan which I outlined to her in a<br>
>> lunch meeting in São Paulo in 2006, and subsequently claimed the<br>
>> idea as her own.<br>
>><br>
>> Or, you could go look at the records (which admittedly takes time).<br>
>><br>
>> It was only when I saw clear errors which were going to put forward<br>
>> that I felt the need to spend the hour or two doing research to get<br>
>> substantiation.<br>
>><br>
>> And I did outline the stuff which I've substantiated above to<br>
>> 'Becky. Although I got my initial dates wrong by a year.<br>
>><br>
>> regards<br>
>><br>
>> --Calvin<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>>><br>
>>> May I request this to apply in everything we communicate? It is<br>
>>> impossible one to know everything....or it is?<br>
>>><br>
>>> That is all for now on this<br>
>>><br>
>>> Yassin (Neutral and 24/7 for Africa!!)<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On 2 July 2012 12:19, Calvin Browne <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:calvin@orange-tree.alt.za" target="_blank" href="mailto:calvin@orange-tree.alt.za">calvin@orange-tree.alt.za</a><br>
>>> <mailto:<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:calvin@orange-tree.alt.za" target="_blank" href="mailto:calvin@orange-tree.alt.za">calvin@orange-tree.alt.za</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 02/07/2012 13:10, Calvin Browne wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> On 28/06/2012 13:24, Dandjinou Pierre wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>> Rebecca,<br>
>>><br>
>>> Good you are writing the history of .Africa<br>
>>><br>
>>> To my knowledge, there has not been any application<br>
>>> for the .Africa<br>
>>> string, apart from those we now have with the new gTLD<br>
>>> programme.<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> There was an actual application in one of the previous<br>
>>> rounds. The applicant even paid a fee, but never came to<br>
>>> present.<br>
>>><br>
>>> I personally helped to pen the GAC' s opposition statement<br>
>>> to this application. This statement was, if memory serves<br>
>>> me right, actually adopted by the Country Code TLD<br>
>>> Registry Constituency, as it was then known, largely intact.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Herewith the application list concerned:<br>
>>><br>
>>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://archive.icann.org/en/tlds/tld-applications-lodged-02oct00.htm">http://archive.icann.org/en/tlds/tld-applications-lodged-02oct00.htm</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> regards<br>
>>><br>
>>> --Calvin<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> >From<br>
>>><br>
>>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/la2000/archive/scribe-icann-111500.html">http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/la2000/archive/scribe-icann-111500.html</a><br>
>>> - the cc's report was summarised (Ben Edelmann had a habit of<br>
>>> summing up what was actually said) as "African ICANN<br>
>>> participants: Urge vigilance when delegating regional TLDs,<br>
>>> especially regions without a developed Internet community. "<br>
>>><br>
>>> Also:<br>
>>><br>
>>> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/la2000/archive/scribe-icann-111400.html">http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/la2000/archive/scribe-icann-111400.html</a><br>
>>><br>
>>> "<br>
>>> C. ccTLD Constituency: Past 2 days with over 40 ccTLDs<br>
>>> present, got substantial and sometimes unanimous consensus on<br>
>>> 4 items. Materials at <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.wwtld.org/">http://www.wwtld.org</a> .<br>
>>> 1. Contract for services between ccTLDs and ICANN.<br>
>>> 2. Discussed �best practice� document. Further discussion at<br>
>>> 10:30.<br>
>>> 3. Object to regional geographic names for new TLDs (�.africa�).<br>
>>> "<br>
>>><br>
>>> Seems even the ISP constituency got on board:<br>
>>><br>
>>> "<br>
>>> D. ISP Constituency: Tony Harris presenting.<br>
>>> <SNIP><br>
>>> 4. New gTLDs: Aware of concerns about .africa. Advise careful<br>
>>> and deliberate rollout of new TLDs to cope with land rush<br>
>>> problems. Concerned that review may have been biased. Expenses<br>
>>> of process should be made public.<br>
>>> "<br>
>>><br>
>>> I can't find the GAC's letter - they had a habit of storing it<br>
>>> on a separate server.<br>
>>><br>
>>> regards<br>
>>><br>
>>> --Calvin<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 09:15:45 +0100<br>
From: Dr Yassin Mshana <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:ymshana2003@gmail.com" target="_blank" href="mailto:ymshana2003@gmail.com">ymshana2003@gmail.com</a>><br>
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I remember the battles during ICANN Cape Town then in Mar de Plata! which<br>
is still going on.. It was the decolonization process within the PDP.<br>
Africans were very vocal and things went on well - Guidelines and Policies<br>
are in place. No natonal or regional political interference. Remember what<br>
was going on with some countries which affected the management of some<br>
ccTLDs? Now every country has its TLD and a stable Management - bravo!<br>
Africans did not fight over their TLDs or did they?<br>
<br>
The question now is, why are is there a fight over .africa? It is a gTLD<br>
matter and members of African ccTLDs know where they stand.<br>
<br>
Now turning to personal attacks over .africa makes the scene unpleasant and<br>
that is where the unprofessional-ism comes in. It is good ideas were shared<br>
- that is very good and encouraging!<br>
<br>
Supporting good causes is what one should do - not to frustrate efforts<br>
being made by various actors. Ability to run a gTLD is mainly from the<br>
investments made and capabilities to run a successful gTLD. That means<br>
risking a lot of money!!<br>
<br>
I wish we stopped playing games - this is a serious matter. Africa may miss<br>
the boat again?!?<br>
<br>
Kind regards<br>
<br>
Yassin<br>
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On 3 July 2012 08:32, SM <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sm@resistor.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:sm@resistor.net">sm@resistor.net</a>> wrote:<br>
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> Hi Calvin,<br>
><br>
> At 23:25 02-07-2012, Calvin Browne wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Agreed - which is why I'm providing references (which took some time to<br>
>> dig up).<br>
>><br>
><br>
> Thanks for providing the references.<br>
><br>
><br>
> As I mainly hung out in the cc group, it was the logical place for me to<br>
>> get some opposition to what was, in my eyes, a recolonisation attempt.<br>
>><br>
><br>
> There may still be recolonisation attempts.<br>
><br>
> Regards,<br>
> -sm<br>
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Date: Tue, 3 Jul 2012 08:21:06 +0000<br>
From: "\"Michele Neylon :: Blacknight\"" <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:michele@blacknight.ie" target="_blank" href="mailto:michele@blacknight.ie">michele@blacknight.ie</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Help with .africa history<br>
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On 3 Jul 2012, at 09:15, Dr Yassin Mshana wrote:<br>
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> I remember the battles during ICANN Cape Town then in Mar de Plata! which is still going on.. It was the decolonization process within the PDP. Africans were very vocal and things went on well - Guidelines and Policies are in place. No natonal or regional political interference. Remember what was going on with some countries which affected the management of some ccTLDs? Now every country has its TLD and a stable Management - bravo! Africans did not fight over their TLDs or did they?<br>
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> The question now is, why are is there a fight over .africa?<br>
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Is there?<br>
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My understanding was that there was only one application for .africa, so it's uncontested ..<br>
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> It is a gTLD matter and members of African ccTLDs know where they stand.<br>
><br>
> Now turning to personal attacks over .africa makes the scene unpleasant and that is where the unprofessional-ism comes in. It is good ideas were shared - that is very good and encouraging!<br>
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> Supporting good causes is what one should do - not to frustrate efforts being made by various actors. Ability to run a gTLD is mainly from the investments made and capabilities to run a successful gTLD. That means risking a lot of money!!<br>
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> I wish we stopped playing games - this is a serious matter. Africa may miss the boat again?!?<br>
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> Kind regards<br>
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> Yassin<br>
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> On 3 July 2012 08:32, SM <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:sm@resistor.net" target="_blank" href="mailto:sm@resistor.net">sm@resistor.net</a>> wrote:<br>
> Hi Calvin,<br>
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> At 23:25 02-07-2012, Calvin Browne wrote:<br>
> Agreed - which is why I'm providing references (which took some time to dig up).<br>
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> Thanks for providing the references.<br>
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> As I mainly hung out in the cc group, it was the logical place for me to get some opposition to what was, in my eyes, a recolonisation attempt.<br>
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> There may still be recolonisation attempts.<br>
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> Regards,<br>
> -sm<br>
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Message: 4<br>
Date: Tue, 03 Jul 2012 10:24:48 +0200<br>
From: Calvin Browne <<a rel="nofollow" ymailto="mailto:calvin@orange-tree.alt.za" target="_blank" href="mailto:calvin@orange-tree.alt.za">calvin@orange-tree.alt.za</a>><br>
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Help with .africa history<br>
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On 03/07/2012 10:05, Nii Narku Quaynor wrote:<br>
> Dr Yassin,<br>
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> The review report on 2000 evaluations are here<br>
> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://archive.icann.org/en/tlds/report/">http://archive.icann.org/en/tlds/report/</a><br>
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> The gTLDs approved during the 2000 round are: *.aero .biz .coop .info<br>
> .museum .name .pro.*The gTLDs approved during the 2004 round are<br>
> *.asia .cat .jobs .mobi .tel .travel* You can find additional<br>
> information about these previous application rounds at<br>
> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.icann.org/tlds/app-index.htm">http://www.icann.org/tlds/app-index.htm</a><br>
> <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.icann.org/en/tlds/app-index.htm">http://www.icann.org/en/tlds/app-index.htm</a>> (2000) and<br>
> <a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.icann.org/tlds/stld-apps-19mar04/">http://www.icann.org/tlds/stld-apps-19mar04/</a><br>
> <<a rel="nofollow" target="_blank" href="http://www.icann.org/en/tlds/stld-apps-19mar04/">http://www.icann.org/en/tlds/stld-apps-19mar04/</a>> (2003-4).<br>
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> I was the chair of the GA of the DNSO from 1999 and later ICANN<br>
> director from 2000-2003<br>
><br>
> Nii<br>
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Nii,<br>
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If I recall (things are coming back to me) you helped with some of the<br>
opposition stuff - I seem to recall some kind of informal stuff - but<br>
hey - as we've been working on this for over 10 years, my memory gets a<br>
bit hazy with who did what when.<br>
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regards<br>
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--Calvin<br>
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