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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-US link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;z-index:auto'><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>You submission begs the question "should the internet conform or be conformed", i beg to differ.....<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><b><i><span style='color:#1F497D'>[Ntege Badru]</span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span></i></b><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>The internet cannot be conformed or controlled but the pipes can be conformed and controlled. So the argument is not about the internet but the pipe that delivers it to your end point and what it should or not deliver. </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Which begs the question, "what makes up the internet and by extension are the pipes part or not?"<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>[Ntege Badru] <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Interesting is it chicken or egg issue. Are the pipes not infrastructure ?? so we have infrastructure and content </span></i></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;z-index:auto'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>So in the good old days of national gateways all this was possible but today with fully distributed and mirrored networks it has become more and more difficult. So the whole issue of control to me becomes an academic exercise, a race between those who want to control and an internet which is always a few years ahead of the control freaks. On the financial side, im afraid the issue of charging for the type of content is inevitable as long as we live in a capitalist economy which we all dearly love until we have to pay for something we do not want to pay for.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>.....hmm, i would rather go with the school of thought that we should rather figure out "a better way or who and how" to pay for the infrastructure that carries the content.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>[Ntege Badru] good and noble notion but unfortunately will not work since it needs loads of cash which will always come with a price.</span></i></b><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;z-index:auto'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>Thus my view that neutrality as a concept is unsustainable.</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Am indifferent.<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;z-index:auto'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='color:#1F497D'>badru</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Eric here<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><o:p></o:p></p><div><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;border-width:initial;border-color:initial;z-index:auto'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><b><i><span style='color:#1F497D'>[Ntege Badru]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span></span></i></b><span style='color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>-----Original Message-----<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>From:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:africann-bounces@afrinic.net">africann-bounces@afrinic.net</a><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:[mailto:africann-bounces@afrinic.net]">[mailto:africann-bounces@afrinic.net]</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Behalf Of Nacer Adamou Saidou<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2011 12:45 PM<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>To:<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Breaking the Internet HOWTO: The<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Unintended Consequences of Governmental Actions<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-----<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hash: SHA1<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>This was my question: what are we doing/considering to do to ensure<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Internet neutrality.<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>These are not the exact words I used as I cannot remember exactly how I<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>stated the question, but that was the idea.<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>I received only one answer from Mr NII NARKU QUAYNOR who was one of<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>the panelist. As far as I undestood him, his answer was barely this: this<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal>is not<br><br><br><o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>really an issue.<o:p></o:p></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regards<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Le 20/12/2011 09:26, SM a écrit :<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>At 23:49 19-12-2011, Nacer Adamou Saidou wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>I tried to open a breach on this during the Afrinic-15 meeting when<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>asking about the Internet Neutrality issue, but there was no real<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>interest on this I guessed.<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>What was the question you asked?<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>-sm<o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></blockquote><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><blockquote 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style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>_______________________________________________<br>AfrICANN mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net">AfrICANN@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal> <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'>Eric M.K Osiakwan<br>Director <br>Internet Research</span><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:13.5pt'><span style='font-size:13.5pt;font-family:"Helvetica","sans-serif";color:black'><a 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