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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-ZA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Yassin, Fatimata,<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Civil servants do what they are instructed to do, yes, but that still doesn’t take away the fact that the current DAG requirement of screening against US laws is not acceptable – whether or not US civil servants put it there in the first place.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Our governments still have a chance to express their objections when GAC engages the ICANN board early next year on the whole new gTLD saga. Whether or not the ICANN board listens or decides to keep ICANN as a servant to the US government, we’ll have to wait for February 2011.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Vika<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div style='border:none;border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 4.0pt'><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> Fatimata Seye Sylla [mailto:fsylla@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> 16 December 2010 03:01 PM<br><b>To:</b> africann@afrinic.net<br><b>Cc:</b> vika@zadna.org.za; ethinktanktz<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] US screening new gTLD applicants against US laws<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Yes, that is Cristal clear !!! However, we shouldn't give up discussing these issues with governments as their interests should be ours. Human beings are making the policies for the governments and my belief is that the US government is aware that these discussions are necessary for "One world, one internet". Therefore, all countries have their say.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Warmest greetings to all of you,<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Fatimata<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 7:25 AM, Dr Yassin Mshana <<a href="mailto:ymshana2003@gmail.com">ymshana2003@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Thank you Vika for this posting.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>This type of issues will keep coming up - the US representation at ICANN - GAC is from the Dept of Trade and what we understood then (2004/05) and now is that they have to defend and protect their Govt interests - after all, that is what all civil Servants do!!<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>In that case, this is a wish not a directive - it has been like that and should remain so...<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On ITU seeing this as an opportunity to rescue that situation..? Well, who constitutes ITU? - the same! International Civil Servants nominated by their Govts.....this will be a similar game but played on different ground <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>As a matter of ICANN Policy, this issue is not discussable - the answer is written on the wall.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>My apologies for sounding harsh but facts are facts.<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Seasons Greetings<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Yasin<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 15 December 2010 17:38, Vika Mpisane <<a href="mailto:vika@zadna.org.za" target="_blank">vika@zadna.org.za</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Dear AfrICANN’s<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Please read Khaled Fattal’s honourable submission at <a href="http://forum.icann.org/lists/5gtld-guide/pdfIIMoPfVdQj.pdf" target="_blank">http://forum.icann.org/lists/5gtld-guide/pdfIIMoPfVdQj.pdf</a> and see what an important and disturbing development the “final” new gTLD Draft Applicant Guidebook gives us. I must admit that while I was bogged down to the ccNSO and its council’s business in Cartagena, this important matter escaped my attention.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>What is Africa’s response to the DAG full granting the US government a right to screen new gTLD applicants against the US (probably more supreme) laws? I really think we can expect non-US people starting to push for alternative DNS root seeing the current DNS is US’ and US’ alone! So if you’re not a US applicant and are from a country the US government considers to be terrorist, then forget about getting your new gTLD! This is what this exactly mean,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>While I’ve been usually reserved regarding the ITU advances towards the DNS, if ICANN continues to be a US govt entity as it is doing right now (even when ICANN is supposed to move away from this reality through the Affirmation), then who can blame the ITU or even other “Internet rebels” (or should we not call them “Internet freedom fighters”) who have come up with alternative DNSes!<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>I hope subscribers to this list will make their governments aware of this important matter (I believe some already have done so) and that our governments and the AU will not disappoint in withstanding the US monopoly of the currently dominant DNS. It must be fair to expect African governments to express their position even before the ICANN board meets GAC in February 2011.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>And I hope we won’t hear another view that ICANN needs to first build our capacity before we can respond to this straight-forward nonsense from the ICANN DAG.<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b>Vika Mpisane</b><o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>ZADNA<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'>+27 11 275 0082<o:p></o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'>_______________________________________________<br>AfrICANN mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net" target="_blank">AfrICANN@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br><br clear=all><br>-- <br>c/o DFID-Sierra Leone<br>5 Off Spur Road<br>Wilberforce<br>Freetown<br>SIERRA LEONE<br><br>Skype: yassinmshana1<br><br>Mobile:+23276926697 <br>Fax: (+232) 22235769<br>Do You really NEED TO PRINT THIS?<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><br>_______________________________________________<br>AfrICANN mailing list<br><a href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net">AfrICANN@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann</a><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><br>-- <br>Fatimata Seye Sylla<br><br> <o:p></o:p></p></div></div></div></div></body></html>