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color:#1F497D'>My comments in line<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Lucida Console"'>Dear
Badru ,McTeam-</span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Lucida Console"'>Thanks
for your comments on DCA.</span></span><span style='font-family:"Lucida Console"'><br>
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<span class=apple-style-span>Sorry, my comments are a bit long, but DCA's
perpective had to be told.</span><br>
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<span class=apple-style-span>You see Badru, DCA did not only bring a .africa
proposal to AU and many others, which you seem to think is the only propriety
we have. No it is not, given that AU and ECA and many others endorsed us and
gave us the same, mandate to pursue the effort, DCA has built a business around
it. We have set the tone, created the theme, have many generation.africa
followings who appreciate and follow our mission and vision.<span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>[] <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>As an individual /entreprenuar it is everyone right to follow an
initiative they feel will become a profitable venture however we cannot divorce
the environment and society that we exist in. The initiative might be of value
to the stakeholders and in their view they might also have a perceived value
for the community but we all have to agree that all that is subjective. The
community in this case must be able to see the value from their perspective and
we must be prepared to accept that at times your perceived value to the
community will not be the same in their eyes.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
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<span class=apple-style-span>I would not say that any efforts out there should
not be combined, but DCA has put the efforts and spent a lot of money and time
to satisfy its mandate and we are in the company of great followings. <span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>[] <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Granted but this does not give DCA an automatic right to what is
a continental resource.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
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<span class=apple-style-span>What I suggest is that we really must all make an
effort to present a fair and unbiased view to the community of what we know and
be careful not to "misinform" in support of one group or
another. This has happened as you now in recent technical forums, which
you know about.<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>[] <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Known as the negative side effect of lobbying <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
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<span class=apple-style-span>You mentioned ICANN wants a proposal with
community acceptance. I always felt that some who have been involved in
the close knit group of ICANN have narrowly defined the "African
community" to be themselves. which is incorrect. Unfortunately that
is not the case, there are 1B people out there that are considered
"communities" for Africa. So that is my answer to you.
Who represents these people and why do we speak on their behalf? Who has
made the effort of inclusion towards this end. <span
style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>[] <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Somehow some way these 1B people all have governments which have
all endorsed the AU as a continental body. I would think this earns the AU
some kind of right to handle an issue like this. <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
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<span class=apple-style-span>To shade additional light to what ICANN guide book
says, for geographic names, the approval for the license comes from governments
and not the technical community. It only refers that it is good if the
"organization is known by the communities". Additionally it
says, any rejection by a minimum 2 governments will stop the process, no need
to go further. That equally applies for AU application if they in fact
decide to go forward. We do not need ICANN to do the rejection for
us. <span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>[] <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Getting mixed messages here. If DCA is professing that it is
planning to work for the benefit of the community and not private value then
why the sprited fight against a continental body that would be the best conduit
to serve and reach the entire African community<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
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<span class=apple-style-span>ICANN, despite McTim's comments have not right to
reject an application based on competition. It is a bid system they set
up themselves, so ICANN should and will encourage competition, that is the
whole idea behind bidding, seletion of the best proposal. Therefore,
Africa should solve its own issues, as for ICANN will not stop any
competition. Its position is to select a proposal that meets the stated requirement.
So Africa should not combine its proposal because of fear of rejection by
ICANN, as that is not true, we should combine it because it is good for Africa,
understanding the facts on our own ground.<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><b><i><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>[] <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><b><i><span style='font-size:
11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>On the other hand
competition is also good <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><span class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Lucida Console"'> </span></span><span
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<span class=apple-style-span>Therefore, from where I stand, I do not think
the decision of .africa issue will be influenced by the technical
community, as it is also not a technical project only, despite we all want to
thinks so. It is political, perhaps it has always been, so I would leave
it at that.<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>[] <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Everything is political even the technical community has
elements of politics. <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
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<span class=apple-style-span>Also, from my point of view, it is a fact that the
African Union can not get in commercial activities of domain name, as they do
not have a mandate over it, even if they have asked for it. Maybe one
needs to understand the role of our continental organization. That said,
from what I see of the current framed picture, they are the smoke screen behind
whoever wants to do .africa. Therefore, to answer to your comment Badru,
Whoever is behind the frame should be joining what has already started and not
reinvent the wheel. As it has been said many time, all is fair in love
and war, so DCA will continue to execute its mandate and satisfy ICANN's
requirement. </span><br>
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<span style='color:#1F497D'><o:p></o:p></span></span></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>[] <o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'>Fare comment but this goes back to my original email. I think
the best way forward should be for all parties to clearly state either they are
in for the money or in it for the good of the African internet community.
Ultimately one winner will emerge but my concern is the wasted opportunities through
unnecessary infighting.<o:p></o:p></span></i></b></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><b><i><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";
color:#1F497D'><o:p> </o:p></span></i></b></p>
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<span class=apple-style-span>I am sorry my comment were too long as well, but
hope this helps to clarify matters from our perspective as well as overall
facts.</span><br>
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<span class=apple-style-span>Respectfully,</span><br>
<span class=apple-style-span> </span></span><o:p></o:p></p>
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On Nov 14, 2010, at 2:01 AM, "Badru Ntege \(NFT\)" <<a
href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>>
wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Nebiyu
and All</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>I do
believe after years of our own internal self orchestrated divisions as a people
in Africa from all parts of the continent we drafted our own marginalization
into becoming what is known today as the third world.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>As a
continent time has run out and we now need to put our differences aside and
look to what we believe is good for Africa. As longer as we proface to do
it for the continent lets sit on the same table. Since this committee has
been set up I would suggest that all different parties should come to the foe
and allow us to create something for the continent which has no personal or
individual agenda’s.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>My
suggestion is DCA should find a way of joining this committee so we have one
initiative from Africa to be presented to the general community. If I’m
not mistaken the ICANN rules expect an initiative to have full support from the
community. We all at one time or another will initiate a
process that at one time or another we find prudent to share with a wider
community for the good of the common good. It might be fact that DCA was
the first to present a proposal for .Africa and if so the community will and
should appreciate their insight. However the time has come for us
to back an initiative from the AU since as a continent we gave that body some
level of mandate to look into and foster cross border initiatives for the African
continent.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Lets
move ahead as one. And if it means to add someone from DCA on this task
force let it be done. But lets stop this African self sabotage. We
owe it to our future generations.</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Sorry
for the long ranting but I hope somewhere between the lines you get my point </span><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:Wingdings;color:#1F497D'>J</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Regards</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'>Badru</span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D'> </span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"'> <a
href="mailto:africann-bounces@afrinic.net">africann-bounces@afrinic.net</a>
[mailto:africann-bounces@afrinic.net] <b>On Behalf Of </b>Nebster<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, November 14, 2010 12:37 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> <a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a><br>
<b>Cc:</b> <<a href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net">africann@afrinic.net</a>><br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] .Africa project communique (Task force)</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'> <o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;mso-margin-bottom-alt:auto'><span
class=apple-style-span><span style='font-family:"Lucida Console"'>"Please
be advised that there is a proposal by DotConnectAfrica to apply for the
.africa gTLD. The statement by Mr. Brian to support another
initiative does not take away that DCA is a full participant in this process.</span></span><span
style='font-family:"Lucida Console"'><br>
<span class=apple-style-span>Thank you,</span><br>
<span class=apple-style-span>Nebiyu"</span></span><br>
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Sent from my iPhone<o:p></o:p></p>
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On Nov 12, 2010, at 2:33 AM, "Manager" <<a
href="mailto:antahigiye@tznic.or.tz">antahigiye@tznic.or.tz</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal style='mso-margin-top-alt:auto;margin-bottom:12.0pt'>Apologies
for cross posting.<br>
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<br>
Eng. Ntahigiye Abibu<br>
Manager, tzNIC<br>
Tel: +255 22 2 772 659<br>
Cel: +255 784 279 511<br>
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