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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Hi Yassin,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I think the need for clear policies is not
only a need for <st1:place w:st="on">Africa</st1:place> – even some governments
in other regions still need to clarify policy in relation to the ccTLDs. Or to
put from another angle, some governments still need to locate their ccTLDs
within their broader national ICT agenda.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>I know of a scenario of a successful ccTLD
in <st1:place w:st="on">Europe</st1:place> that was almost taken over by local radicals
& the ccTLD’s main weakness was that it is not protected by national
policy or legislation. I’m not really advocating that governments should
regulate their ccTLD managers, but it certainly helps if governments have at
least a clear policy of where its ccTLD & its ccTLD manager fit in.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>There are various models out there. Some have
gone through the legislation route (i.e. they use law of parliament) to define
the role of ccTLD managers. <st1:country-region w:st="on">South Africa</st1:country-region>
(.za) and <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Australia</st1:place></st1:country-region>
(.au) are examples of this.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Others like .uk (operated by Nominet) and
.ke have allowed for industry self-regulation but involve government input at
various levels, which may be the best model if we were living in a perfect
world.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Then there are those that are not endorsed
by either the local industry or government – they just somehow manage to
forcefully exist!<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>The point is really that each country
should look at what model suits it well, but each model will come with varying
degrees of responsibility and entitlements. If you choose industry
self-regulation, then make sure you industry has sufficient funds to operate
the ccTLD independently from government funding.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>If you choose the .za/.au option, then you
won’t have a headache of funds in the short term, but the ccTLD is still
expected to become self-funding in the medium term. In certain cases where
government is involved in legislating its ccTLD, the risk is of course the
usually unwanted government intervention. Yet in the .za case, there is very
minimal government role in the ccTLD, which is a good thing.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>These are just my observations –
there may be many colleagues who may have different views.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Regards,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><strong><b><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Vika Mpisane</span></font></b></strong><font
size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;
color:navy'><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>.za Domain Name Authority<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Tel: +27 11 275 0082<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:
10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Fax:+27 11 234 5022</span></font><font
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<p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2
face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Dr Yassin Mshana
[mailto:ymshana2003@gmail.com] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 11, 2009 3:50 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <st1:PersonName w:st="on">vika@zadna.org.za</st1:PersonName>;
<st1:PersonName w:st="on">africann@afrinic.net</st1:PersonName><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Cc:</span></b> Brian Munyao Longwe<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [AfrICANN-discuss]
Re: <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region>
amendment act and KENIC</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Hello,<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>I am pleased to see that this discussion and elaboration
has sufficed both ends.<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>my concern over a long time has been the identification of roles and
areas of business activities in various countries (<st1:place w:st="on">Africa</st1:place>).
I have always sensed that/ it seems to me that there is a need to
negotiate for/influence/ and press for clear policies with National Authorities
on this. <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Or am I late on this?<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>Regards<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
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<p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3
face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Yassin<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:
12.0pt'>2009/5/11 Vika Mpisane <<a href="mailto:vika@zadna.org.za">vika@zadna.org.za</a>><o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Thanks for the clarity, Brian. </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>I was a bit nervous that a player of such magnitude and importance
as Kenic might be replaced by new registry operators, which would mean we would
loose out on so much collective experience & expertise.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Regards,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'> </span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><strong><b><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;
font-family:Arial;color:navy'>Vika Mpisane</span></font></b></strong><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>.za Domain Name Authority</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Tel: +27 11 275 0082</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
<p><font size=2 color=navy face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:
Arial;color:navy'>Fax:+27 11 234 5022</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;
font-weight:bold'>From:</span></font></b><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span
style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> Brian Munyao Longwe [mailto:<a
href="mailto:blongwe@gmail.com" target="_blank">blongwe@gmail.com</a>] <br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, May 11, 2009 2:58 PM<br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> <a
href="mailto:vika@zadna.org.za" target="_blank">vika@zadna.org.za</a>; <a
href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank">africann@afrinic.net</a><br>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [AfrICANN-discuss]
Re: <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region>
amendment act and KENIC</span></font><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'> <o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Vika,<br>
<br>
To shed a bit of light, the Amendment deals with licensing of registrys -
registrars don't require a license. I agree with this principle because it is
not restrictive at the bottom of the pyramid.<br>
<br>
To ally your fears, KENIC will definitely continue to operate and administer
domains at the 2nd level.<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Brian<br>
Vice-Chair, KENIC<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>On Mon,
May 11, 2009 at 3:51 PM, Vika Mpisane <<a href="mailto:vika@zadna.org.za"
target="_blank">vika@zadna.org.za</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
<p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>Hi Alice,<br>
<br>
I understand the registrar liberalization part, which makes sense, but I<br>
don't understand why the role of licensing registrars for 2nd level domains<br>
should not be performed by the ccTLD manager, in this case, Kenic.<br>
<br>
And just so that I have a clear understanding: is the amendment act only<br>
limited to licensing registrars, not registries? I mean, is there a<br>
guarantee that Kenic will continue to operate the .ke 2nd level domains<br>
without being required to obtain a license from CCK?<br>
<br>
Regards,<br>
<br>
Vika Mpisane<br>
.za Domain Name Authority<br>
Tel: +27 11 275 0082<br>
Fax:+27 11 234 5022<o:p></o:p></span></font></p>
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[mailto:<a href="mailto:africann-bounces@afrinic.net" target="_blank">africann-bounces@afrinic.net</a>]
On<br>
Behalf Of <st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">alice</st1:place></st1:City>
munyua<br>
Sent: Monday, May 11, 2009 1:05 PM<br>
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<p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span
style='font-size:12.0pt'>Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Re: <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region> amendment
act and KENIC<br>
<br>
There seems to be some misunderstanding about what the <st1:country-region
w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">kenya</st1:place></st1:country-region>
communication<br>
amendment act 2009 (KCA 2009) and what it proposes to introduce, which is<br>
basically the era of convergence.<br>
<br>
It is the introduction of liberalisation at<br>
the sub domain level by creating a<br>
competitive registrar model. KENIC remains the ccTLD manager of the whole<br>
dot KE namespace and<br>
registry operator. What the KCA ammendment requires is if a registered<br>
company wants to manage/sell the second level, i.e. .<a href="http://co.ke"
target="_blank">co.ke</a>, <a href="http://sc.ke" target="_blank">sc.ke</a>
etc. they<br>
would need to get a license from CCK to become an registarar.<br>
This is encouraging competition at the sub domain level and from my<br>
interpretation that is progress..there has been a discussion on some lists<br>
that the government takes on a larger than life oversight role, this is not<br>
correct and please note that the regulatory authority CCK has always been a<br>
major stakeholder in KENIC<br>
<br>
Best<br>
<st1:City w:st="on"><st1:place w:st="on">Alice</st1:place></st1:City><br>
<br>
(Views expressed are personal and not a reflection of any<br>
organisation/institution - am affiliated with)<br>
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From: Anne-Rachel Inné <<a href="mailto:annerachel@gmail.com" target="_blank">annerachel@gmail.com</a>><br>
<br>
Date: Sun, 10 May 2009 11:11:21<br>
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