<HTML><BODY style="word-wrap: break-word; -khtml-nbsp-mode: space; -khtml-line-break: after-white-space; "><DIV>Rafik,</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Competition is good but in this case we need to present a united front so that we are taken serious. It is important for us to present a united front on such matters, offcourse if possible after internal consltations. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Without prejudice but if one country has already submitted a bid then they need to open that to us and we all (once sure it is okay) rally around that. It would have been better if we had access before it was presented. </DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>When applying for these things they are specification that must be met so it makes more sense to present countries that are eligible which also becomes an incentive for more countries to be eligible.</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><DIV>Eric here</DIV><DIV><BR class="khtml-block-placeholder"></DIV><BR><DIV><DIV>On 1 Sep 2007, at 20:49, rafik dammak wrote:</DIV><BR class="Apple-interchange-newline"><BLOCKQUOTE type="cite">Hi,<BR><BR>a little bit of competition for improving the bids of each country isn't so bad idea.<BR>but I think that we should have a regional round in African one time in North africa, south of Africa (not the country :) ) in east part in west etc. <BR>I am sorry to say this but in general there are often the same few countries which apply when there are more than 50 countries in Africa.<BR><BR>Regards<BR><BR><BR><DIV><SPAN class="gmail_quote">On 9/1/07, <B class="gmail_sendername"> Vika Mpisane</B> <<A href="mailto:vika@zadna.org.za">vika@zadna.org.za</A>> wrote:</SPAN><BLOCKQUOTE class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN><FONT color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Hi Michael & Africanners,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN><FONT color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN><FONT color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">I'm personally not aware of other African bids, but if Egypt, Senegal & Uganda have put in bids or are planning to do so, then it means you will all be in for serious lobbying & we as by-standers will have to choose between our good friends (and needless to say we may have to loose some friendships).</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN><FONT color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN><FONT color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">I suggest that as bidders, Kenya should try & find a way of lobbying the other African bidders. It would really give Africa a unified image if we were to have only one bid. I do think that with effective diplomacy and persuasion, some bidders may be willing to withdraw their bids and make it possible to have one or at least only 2 bids.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN><FONT color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN><FONT color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Having said that, I wish Kenic & the other bidders (if any) all the best...</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN><FONT color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN><FONT color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><STRONG>Vika Mpisane</STRONG></FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN><FONT color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">.za Domain Name Authority</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN><FONT color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2">Johannesburg, South Africa</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left"><SPAN><FONT color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"></FONT></SPAN> </DIV><BR> <DIV dir="ltr" align="left" lang="en-us"> <HR> <FONT face="Tahoma" size="2"><B>From:</B> <A href="mailto:africann-bounces@afrinic.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">africann-bounces@afrinic.net</A> [mailto:<A href="mailto:africann-bounces@afrinic.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">africann-bounces@afrinic.net</A>] <B>On Behalf Of </B>Katundu , Michael<BR><B>Sent:</B> 01 September 2007 13:48<BR><B>To:</B> <A href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">africann@afrinic.net</A><BR><B>Cc:</B> MUGAMBI KINOTI<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [AfrICANN-discuss] Kenya bids to host top IT conference<BR></FONT><BR></DIV><DIV><SPAN class="e" id="q_114c223c98d12953_1"> <DIV></DIV><P><FONT size="2">Dear all;<BR>I hope this finds you fine. As you may be aware, Kenya, through the KENYA NETWORK INFORMATION CENTER (.ke CCTLD), has formally submitted a bid to host ICANN in November next year.<BR><BR>I'm therefore appealing to you all to support the Kenyan bid. Moreover, I kindly appeal to those other African countries which may have submitted or intend to submit a similar bid, to please withdraw their bids and support Kenya this time around, and Kenya promises to in return support their bids in future.<BR><BR>Thank you in advance.<BR><BR>Regards;<BR><BR>Michael Katundu<BR>KENIC FOUNDER, KENIC BOARD MEMBER &<BR>KENYA GAC of ICANN REPRESENTATIVE <BR><BR>-----Original Message-----<BR>From: "alice" <<A href="mailto:alice@apc.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">alice@apc.org</A>><BR>To: "<A href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> africann@afrinic.net</A>" <<A href="mailto:africann@afrinic.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">africann@afrinic.net</A>><BR>Sent: 01/09/07 12:50<BR>Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Kenya bids to host top IT conference<BR><BR>Hi rafik and all<BR><BR>I understand that Egypt, Senegal and Uganda are also bidding. Perhaps<BR>Anne Rachel could give us more information. Egypt, South Africa and<BR>Ghana have previously hosted ICANN meetings.<BR><BR>As a member of the KENIC board, I wish to request support from the ICANN<BR>African community to support Kenya's bid to host the ICANN meeting in<BR>November 2008.<BR><BR>regards<BR><BR>alice munyua<BR><BR>><BR>> Hi everybody,<BR>><BR>> there are other African countries candidates to host the ICANN meeting?<BR>><BR>> Regards<BR>><BR>> On 9/1/07, *Anne-Rachel Inné* < <A href="mailto:annerachel@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">annerachel@gmail.com</A><BR>> <<A href="mailto:annerachel@gmail.com" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> mailto:annerachel@gmail.com</A>>> wrote:<BR>><BR>> * <<<BR>> <<A href="http://www.eastandard.net/hm_news/news.php?articleid=1143973832" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.eastandard.net/hm_news/news.php?articleid=1143973832 </A>> *<BR>> <BR>> The East African Standard | Online Edition<BR>> <<A href="http://www.eastandard.net/" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.eastandard.net/</A>><BR>><BR>> <BR>><BR>> <BR>> <BR>><BR>> * Saturday September 1, 2007 *<BR>><BR>> <BR>><BR>> * Kenya bids to host top IT conference *<BR>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>><BR>> *By Alari Alare*<BR>><BR>> Kenya has submitted a bid to host the African round of the<BR>> Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers (Icann)<BR>> meeting set for November next year.<BR>><BR>> The bid was submitted by the board of the Kenya Information Centre<BR>> (Kenic) on behalf of the private sector and the Government.<BR>><BR>> Speaking during Kenic's annual general meeting on Friday, chairman<BR>> Anthony Mugambi, disclosed that a team comprising Government,<BR>> private sector and the Kenya Tourism Board (KTB) will be<BR>> constituted to lobby for the bid.<BR>><BR>> As a trustee for the dot. ke country-code-top-level-domain, Kenic<BR>> oversees the Kenyan Domain Name space by managing and<BR>> administering the dot .ke in conformity with global Internet policies.<BR>><BR>> Icann, the Internet Corporation for Assigned Names and Numbers on<BR>> the other hand is responsible for managing and coordinating the<BR>> global Domain Name System (DNS) to ensure each address is unique<BR>> and that users of the Internet could find valid addresses. It does<BR>> this by overseeing the distribution of unique IP (Internet<BR>> Protocol) addresses and domain names.<BR>><BR>> "In an effort to expose Kenya's vibrant ICT community to the rest<BR>> of the world, the<BR>><BR>> Kenic Board has submitted a bid to host the African round of the<BR>> Icann meeting in November next year in Nairobi, Kenya", said Mugambi.<BR>><BR>> "We are confident of winning the bid to host the event and we<BR>> shall be seeking your support in hosting the event," said Mugambi.<BR>><BR>> During the meeting, a new board led by Mugambi was named to steer<BR>> the Centre's activities.<BR>><BR>><BR>><BR>> << Back<BR>> <<A href="http://www.eastandard.net/hm_news/news.php?articleid=1143973832" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">http://www.eastandard.net/hm_news/news.php?articleid=1143973832 </A>><BR>><BR>><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> AfrICANN mailing list<BR>> <A href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">AfrICANN@afrinic.net</A> <<A href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net</A>><BR>> <A href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann</A><BR>><BR>><BR>> <BR>><BR>> --<BR>> Research student / Computer Engineer<BR>> RIADI Lab ENSI / STMicroelectronics<BR>> IEEE/IEEE-CS/ComSoc/IPSJ/IEICE-IS Student member<BR>> Contact: <A href="mailto:rafik.dammak@ieee.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">rafik.dammak@ieee.org</A> <<A href="mailto:rafik.dammak@ieee.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> mailto:rafik.dammak@ieee.org</A>><BR>> <A href="mailto:rafik.dammak@computer.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">rafik.dammak@computer.org</A> <<A href="mailto:rafik.dammak@computer.org" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> mailto:rafik.dammak@computer.org</A>><BR>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------<BR>><BR>> _______________________________________________<BR>> AfrICANN mailing list<BR>> <A href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">AfrICANN@afrinic.net</A><BR>> <A href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann</A><BR>> <BR><BR><BR>_______________________________________________<BR>AfrICANN mailing list<BR><A href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)">AfrICANN@afrinic.net</A><BR><A href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann" target="_blank" onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)"> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann</A><BR></FONT></P></SPAN></DIV></DIV> <BR>_______________________________________________<BR>AfrICANN mailing list<BR><A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="mailto:AfrICANN@afrinic.net">AfrICANN@afrinic.net</A><BR><A onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann" target="_blank"> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann</A><BR><BR></BLOCKQUOTE></DIV><BR><BR clear="all"><BR>-- <BR>Research student / Computer Engineer<BR>RIADI Lab ENSI / STMicroelectronics<BR>IEEE/IEEE-CS/ComSoc/IPSJ/IEICE-IS Student member <BR>Contact: <A href="mailto:rafik.dammak@ieee.org">rafik.dammak@ieee.org</A><BR> <A href="mailto:rafik.dammak@computer.org">rafik.dammak@computer.org</A><DIV style="margin-top: 0px; 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