[AfrICANN-discuss] Breaking News: DotConnectAfrica Trust WinsResounding Victory against ICANN in IRP Accountability

Dr Yassin Mshana ymshana2003 at gmail.com
Mon Jul 20 14:56:31 UTC 2015


Which is a better saga between FIFA and the .africa one?

Let the processes move on 'properly' and 'openly' now the Truth has come
out.

Cheers Africa!
On 20 Jul 2015 16:49, "Vika Mpisane" <vika at zadna.org.za> wrote:

> I am particularly impressed with this summation from EL’s email:
>
>
> "She needed support by 60% of African governments' at a certain point
> during her Application, and she has all but admitted that she does not.
> She asked the panel to reset the clock and give her 18 (further) months to
> get those who have not issued a letter of support (well before the
> deadline) to do so now (well after deadline) and to convince of the large
> number of those who did, by writing such letter in support of the other bid
> (well before deadline), a significant number to withdraw and issue a new
> one (well after deadline)."
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Vika Mpisane  |  ZADNA  |  +27 11 314 0077 ext. 602
>
>
> From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na>
> Reply-To: AfrICANN list <africann at afrinic.net>
> Date: Monday 20 July 2015 at 14:59
> To: AfrICANN list <africann at afrinic.net>
> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Breaking News: DotConnectAfrica Trust
> WinsResounding Victory against ICANN in IRP Accountability
>
> Nobody has been prevented from reading the GAC Communique, the Board
> Decisions and/or the documents filed in the case.
>
> Nobody has been prevented from reading either applicant's side of the
> story, though the sock-puppetry makes it difficult, I have to admit.
>
> Nobody has been prevented from making up ones mind after and during the
> above.
>
>
> The issue is not one of Africans being denied "their" new gTLD, or even
> worse, suffering during the denial, being forced to register somewhere
> else, which is plain nonsense. And whether .AFRICA is important remains to
> be seen, I am somewhat doubtful, personally.
>
> The issue is one of ICANN, and its Board, and its Advisory Committee, and
> its Staff having had handed parts of their anatomy to them, because of the
> way they have been dealing with an Applicant, unfairly in the case of the
> Board, non-transparently and non-objectively (at least) by the GAC, and
> with staggering arrogance by staff.
>
> As the other half of Team Caucasian (remember, sock-puppy famously pointed
> to an image of my family on my web site (could be that she wanted to imply
> that I had gone to some length hiding that I was a racist, but probably she
> was just tired and emotional again)) I am the last person on earth wanting
> her to get .AFRICA, but every Application must treated fairly and on its
> merits.
>
> Of which they are NONE in sock-puppy's Application:
>
> She needed support by 60% of African governments' at a certain point
> during her Application, and she has all but admitted that she does not.
> She asked the panel to reset the clock and give her 18 (further) months to
> get those who have not issued a letter of support (well before the
> deadline) to do so now (well after deadline) and to convince of the large
> number of those who did, by writing such letter in support of the other bid
> (well before deadline), a significant number to withdraw and issue a new
> one (well after deadline).
>
> The panel's members did not have to be as eminent as they are to see
> through such an idiotic request.
>
>
> As stated here before, I have been appointed by the chartering ccNSO to
> the CCWG Accountability, where I feel I should look out for the interests
> of smaller ccTLDs, in particular African ones, even if lethargy is only
> surpassed by naiveté here and this is not directly a ccTLD Issue.
>
> This (multi-year commitment to significant workload) puts me at least in a
> position to be able to raise the underlying causes identified by the IRP
> panel within ICANN in a forum which at least has some small form of
> leverage.
>
> I doubt we can ever get staff to behave any better than sock-puppy, but I
> remain somewhat confident that we can make the GAC become more transparent
> if not more objective, it is after all a Committee of ICANN, giving advice
> to the Board, and not a multilateral treaty organization appointing the
> Board. I am more confident in making the Board behave a little fairer and
> more diligently.
>
> That will also help the smaller ccTLDs who are being railroaded in a
> similar manner.
>
>
> I must repeat myself, nobody has been prevented from participating in the
> CCWG Accountability.
>
> All the hyperventilating here is fun, but has not consequences.
>
> el
> --
> Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
>
> On Jul 17, 2015, at 19:08, Mwendwa Kivuva <Kivuva at transworldafrica.com>
> wrote:
>
> Thank you Seun,
>
> The community is caught in between not really knowing what is happening.
> We are left to make judgement from the many news articles and blogs written
> by either independed or partisan interests.
>
> We have a saying in Swahili "fahali wawili wanapopigana, ni nyasi huumia".
> Loosely translated as "When two bulls fight, its the grass that suffers".
> In this case, the community is missing out in use of the important .africa
> string. For example,  the East African community is forced to use eac.int
> while eac.africa would have sufficed. Of course there are other examples
> like ecowas.africa comesa.africa sadc.africa e.t.c.
>
> I think we should be every firm in castigating ICANN for not following due
> diligence in the .africa application. The transparency and accountability
> track should ensure there are mechanisms in place to avoid the scenario we
> are in from occurring again. The  bill of the IRP process which is in
> excess of US $ 606,114 could have been put into better use.
>
> Regards
>
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