[AfrICANN-discuss] Re: Intellectual Property Issue Re: Logo
Competition in Commemoration of 10 Years of AFRINIC
Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
ekenyanito at gmail.com
Wed Oct 22 12:53:08 UTC 2014
Hi Gaelle and all,
Thanks for responding to Remmy, though I have a similar question with Remmy which I do not see in you response.
>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Well Sam, you took the word, but for me, that was also why I sought
> clarification, because I really did not understand why AfriNIC should hold
> on to a design you declare non-winner and what exactly.......
Ephraim Percy Kenyanito
www.about.me/ekenyanito
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> 1. Re: Intellectual Property Issue Re: Logo Competition in
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> 2. Re: Intellectual Property Issue Re: Logo Competition in
> Commemoration of 10 Years of AFRINIC (Seun Ojedeji)
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> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:13:04 +0100
> From: Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Intellectual Property Issue Re: Logo
> Competition in Commemoration of 10 Years of AFRINIC
> To: Gaelle Fall <gaelle.fall at afrinic.net>
> Cc: AfrICANN list <africann at afrinic.net>
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> Thanks Gaelle for the response.
>
> However, I should have suggested that since its AfriNIC commemoration, it
> should have been good to have such winner attend AfriNIC meeting where the
> effort will be recognised among the AfriNIC community strictly. And as a
> communication person you will drive more value thereof.
>
> If such a person is to attend another event it may largely go unnoticed.
>
> just my too cents.
>
> Best of the day and regards to your team.
> Remmy
>
> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Gaelle Fall <gaelle.fall at afrinic.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear Remmy,
>>
>> Thank you for voicing your concerns. Apologies for the delayed response.
>> Please find some clarifications about the logo competition:
>>
>> The winner will be given a grant of up to $1,500 USD to attend one of the
>> following events of his/her choosing:
>> *** AIS 2015 in Tunis
>> *** ICANN 52 in Marrakech
>> *** IGF 2015 in Brasil
>> *** AFRINIC meeting in Nov 2015
>> *** any other RIR meeting taking place in 2015
>>
>> The prize will either cover airfare (which will be booked by AFRINIC) or
>> accommodations to chosen event (amount of no more than $1,500 will be
>> transferred directly in winner's name)
>> Grant cannot be transferred to any other individual and cannot be remitted
>> in cash.
>> Grant must be used by December 1, 2015 or will be forfeited.
>> Any additional charges to attend chosen event will be the responsibility
>> of prize winner
>>
>> The winner of the competition will be recognised for his/her work and a
>> list of all competition participants will be published on the AFRINIC
>> website.
>>
>> More information can be found on our AFRINIC-21 website at
>> http://meeting.afrinic.net/afrinic-21/en/agenda/logo-competition
>>
>> Regards,
>> __________
>> Gaëlle Anta Fall (Ms)
>> Head of Communications & PR, AFRINIC Ltd.
>> t: +230 403 51 00 | f: +230 466 6758 | tt: @afrinic | w:
>> www.afrinic.net
>> facebook.com/afrinic | flickr.com/afrinic | youtube.com/afrinicmedia
>>
>> _______________________
>>
>> Join us for AFRINIC-21 in Mauritius
>> 22 to 28 November, 2014
>> Register now at:
>> http://meeting.afrinic.net/afrinic-21/en/
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:18 PM, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> thanks Seun, I hope the detail is made clearer, especially for those who
>> will toil for it.
>>> Remmy
>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> I am taking this discussion to the African list (so it can receive the
>> right attention). @Remmy i think the call includes a price will be awarded,
>> although it did not indicate what that would be nevertheless i expect any
>> winner would be sponsored to attend the event in other to at least receive
>> the certificate ;)
>>>
>>> Maybe its good all these details are listed on the package
>>>
>>> Cheers!
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Well Sam, you took the word, but for me, that was also why I sought
>> clarification, because I really did not understand why AfriNIC should hold
>> on to a design you declare non-winner and what exactly should be the
>> motivation above the certification, which does not empower the person
>> economically in any form. Appreciation of labour should start from home
>> which in this case is AfriNIC.
>>>
>>> Whoever gets to designing or participating in such a contest invariably
>> is not looking for certificate but economic value given the time and
>> intellectual engagement to strategically think out something.
>>>
>>> I think very strongly AfriNIC should rethink about the prize, no matter
>> who it will go to eventually. We as community should be able to encourage
>> intellectualism. If it was that cheap, AfriNIC secretariat should have just
>> put something together and tag it 10yr logo, I am sure no one will bleak.
>>>
>>> Best of the evening from Dubai.
>>> Remmy
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Sam Lanfranco <lanfran at yorku.ca> wrote:
>>> Olivier,
>>>
>>> In my personal opinion, and as an economist, I consider it unfortunate
>> in this otherwise good idea for a commemorative 10 Years of AFRINIC logo
>> that the contest is appropriating without any compensation the intellectual
>> property of the designers who submit designs. It would have been better to
>> offer a slightly more substantial prize than a certificate to the winning
>> design(s), and to leave ownership of the remaining designs in the hands of
>> the designers. It is also hard to figure out of what use the other 10-Year
>> designs would be to AFRINIC in any event.
>>>
>>> Sam L.
>>>
>>> On 2014-10-15 3:57 AM, Olévié Kouami posted the Logo Competition details
>> which included:
>>> *** Disclaimer: The winning design of AFRINIC's 10 years and all other
>> designs submitted will become the property of AFRINIC and cannot be used by
>> designer for any other purpose.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ____
>>> REMMY NWEKE,
>>> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
>>> DigitalSENSE Africa Media Ltd
>>> (publishers of) DigitalSENSE Business News;
>>> ITREALMS, NaijaAgroNet
>>> (Multiple-award winning medium)
>>> Published by: DigitalSENSE Africa Media Ltd
>>> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza
>>> Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos
>>> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475,
>>> T: @ITRealms
>>> [Member, NIRA Executive Board]
>>> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria
>>> NDS Forum on Internet Governance for Development (IG4D) 2014<
>> http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng>- June 5
>>> Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable 2014 <http://www.ipv6forumnigeria.ng> - June 6
>>> @Welcome Centre Hotels. Register now. Email: remnekkv at gmail.com
>>> _____________________________________________________________________
>>> *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and
>> attachments
>>> are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended
>>> only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept
>> legal
>>> responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the
>> intended
>>> recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do
>>> not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make
>>> any copies. Violators may face court persecution.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> Seun Ojedeji,
>>> Federal University Oye-Ekiti
>>> web: http://www.fuoye.edu.ng
>>> Mobile: +2348035233535
>>> alt email: seun.ojedeji at fuoye.edu.ng
>>>
>>> The key to understanding is humility - my view !
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> ____
>>> REMMY NWEKE,
>>> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
>>> DigitalSENSE Africa Media Ltd
>>> (publishers of) DigitalSENSE Business News;
>>> ITREALMS, NaijaAgroNet
>>> (Multiple-award winning medium)
>>> Published by: DigitalSENSE Africa Media Ltd
>>> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza
>>> Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos
>>> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475,
>>> T: @ITRealms
>>> [Member, NIRA Executive Board]
>>> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria
>>> NDS Forum on Internet Governance for Development (IG4D) 2014<
>> http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng>- June 5
>>> Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable 2014 <http://www.ipv6forumnigeria.ng> - June 6
>>> @Welcome Centre Hotels. Register now. Email: remnekkv at gmail.com
>>> _____________________________________________________________________
>>> *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and
>> attachments
>>> are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended
>>> only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept
>> legal
>>> responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the
>> intended
>>> recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do
>>> not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make
>>> any copies. Violators may face court persecution.
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> AfrICANN mailing list
>>> AfrICANN at afrinic.net
>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann
>
>
> --
> ____
> REMMY NWEKE,
> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
> DigitalSENSE Africa Media Ltd
> (publishers of) DigitalSENSE Business News;
> ITREALMS, NaijaAgroNet
> (Multiple-award winning medium)
> Published by: DigitalSENSE Africa Media Ltd
> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza
> Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos
> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475,
> T: @ITRealms <http://www.twitter.com/ITRealms>
> [Member, NIRA Executive Board]
> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria
> <https://www.facebook.com/adecadeofictreportageinnigeria>
> NDS Forum on Internet Governance for Development (IG4D) 2014<
> http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng>- June 5
> Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable 2014 <http://www.ipv6forumnigeria.ng> - June 6
> @Welcome Centre Hotels. Register now. Email: remnekkv at gmail.com
> _____________________________________________________________________
> *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments
> are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended
> only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept legal
> responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the intended
> recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do
> not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make
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> Date: Wed, 22 Oct 2014 13:15:24 +0100
> From: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Intellectual Property Issue Re: Logo
> Competition in Commemoration of 10 Years of AFRINIC
> To: Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com>
> Cc: africann at afrinic.net
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> +1 to the suggestion, actually that's what I had expected and it should be
> full sponsorship.
>
> Cheers!
> sent from Google nexus 4
> kindly excuse brevity and typos.
>> On 22 Oct 2014 13:13, "Remmy Nweke" <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Gaelle for the response.
>>
>> However, I should have suggested that since its AfriNIC commemoration, it
>> should have been good to have such winner attend AfriNIC meeting where the
>> effort will be recognised among the AfriNIC community strictly. And as a
>> communication person you will drive more value thereof.
>>
>> If such a person is to attend another event it may largely go unnoticed.
>>
>> just my too cents.
>>
>> Best of the day and regards to your team.
>> Remmy
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 22, 2014 at 11:49 AM, Gaelle Fall <gaelle.fall at afrinic.net>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Remmy,
>>>
>>> Thank you for voicing your concerns. Apologies for the delayed response.
>>> Please find some clarifications about the logo competition:
>>>
>>> The winner will be given a grant of up to $1,500 USD to attend one of the
>>> following events of his/her choosing:
>>> *** AIS 2015 in Tunis
>>> *** ICANN 52 in Marrakech
>>> *** IGF 2015 in Brasil
>>> *** AFRINIC meeting in Nov 2015
>>> *** any other RIR meeting taking place in 2015
>>>
>>> The prize will either cover airfare (which will be booked by AFRINIC) or
>>> accommodations to chosen event (amount of no more than $1,500 will be
>>> transferred directly in winner’s name)
>>> Grant cannot be transferred to any other individual and cannot be
>>> remitted in cash.
>>> Grant must be used by December 1, 2015 or will be forfeited.
>>> Any additional charges to attend chosen event will be the responsibility
>>> of prize winner
>>>
>>> The winner of the competition will be recognised for his/her work and a
>>> list of all competition participants will be published on the AFRINIC
>>> website.
>>>
>>> More information can be found on our AFRINIC-21 website at
>>> http://meeting.afrinic.net/afrinic-21/en/agenda/logo-competition
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> __________
>>> Gaëlle Anta Fall (Ms)
>>> Head of Communications & PR, AFRINIC Ltd.
>>> t: +230 403 51 00 | f: +230 466 6758 | tt: @afrinic | w:
>>> www.afrinic.net
>>> facebook.com/afrinic | flickr.com/afrinic | youtube.com/afrinicmedia
>>>
>>> _______________________
>>>
>>> Join us for AFRINIC-21 in Mauritius
>>> 22 to 28 November, 2014
>>> Register now at:
>>> http://meeting.afrinic.net/afrinic-21/en/
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> On Oct 15, 2014, at 8:18 PM, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> thanks Seun, I hope the detail is made clearer, especially for those
>>> who will toil for it.
>>>> Remmy
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 5:03 PM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> I am taking this discussion to the African list (so it can receive the
>>> right attention). @Remmy i think the call includes a price will be awarded,
>>> although it did not indicate what that would be nevertheless i expect any
>>> winner would be sponsored to attend the event in other to at least receive
>>> the certificate ;)
>>>>
>>>> Maybe its good all these details are listed on the package
>>>>
>>>> Cheers!
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Remmy Nweke <remmyn at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Well Sam, you took the word, but for me, that was also why I sought
>>> clarification, because I really did not understand why AfriNIC should hold
>>> on to a design you declare non-winner and what exactly should be the
>>> motivation above the certification, which does not empower the person
>>> economically in any form. Appreciation of labour should start from home
>>> which in this case is AfriNIC.
>>>>
>>>> Whoever gets to designing or participating in such a contest invariably
>>> is not looking for certificate but economic value given the time and
>>> intellectual engagement to strategically think out something.
>>>>
>>>> I think very strongly AfriNIC should rethink about the prize, no matter
>>> who it will go to eventually. We as community should be able to encourage
>>> intellectualism. If it was that cheap, AfriNIC secretariat should have just
>>> put something together and tag it 10yr logo, I am sure no one will bleak.
>>>>
>>>> Best of the evening from Dubai.
>>>> Remmy
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Oct 15, 2014 at 3:39 PM, Sam Lanfranco <lanfran at yorku.ca>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> Olivier,
>>>>
>>>> In my personal opinion, and as an economist, I consider it unfortunate
>>> in this otherwise good idea for a commemorative 10 Years of AFRINIC logo
>>> that the contest is appropriating without any compensation the intellectual
>>> property of the designers who submit designs. It would have been better to
>>> offer a slightly more substantial prize than a certificate to the winning
>>> design(s), and to leave ownership of the remaining designs in the hands of
>>> the designers. It is also hard to figure out of what use the other 10-Year
>>> designs would be to AFRINIC in any event.
>>>>
>>>> Sam L.
>>>>
>>>> On 2014-10-15 3:57 AM, Olévié Kouami posted the Logo Competition
>>> details which included:
>>>> *** Disclaimer: The winning design of AFRINIC’s 10 years and all other
>>> designs submitted will become the property of AFRINIC and cannot be used by
>>> designer for any other purpose.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ____
>>>> REMMY NWEKE,
>>>> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
>>>> DigitalSENSE Africa Media Ltd
>>>> (publishers of) DigitalSENSE Business News;
>>>> ITREALMS, NaijaAgroNet
>>>> (Multiple-award winning medium)
>>>> Published by: DigitalSENSE Africa Media Ltd
>>>> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza
>>>> Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos
>>>> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475,
>>>> T: @ITRealms
>>>> [Member, NIRA Executive Board]
>>>> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria
>>>> NDS Forum on Internet Governance for Development (IG4D) 2014<
>>> http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng>- June 5
>>>> Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable 2014 <http://www.ipv6forumnigeria.ng> - June 6
>>>> @Welcome Centre Hotels. Register now. Email: remnekkv at gmail.com
>>>> _____________________________________________________________________
>>>> *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and
>>> attachments
>>>> are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended
>>>> only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept
>>> legal
>>>> responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the
>>> intended
>>>> recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and
>>> do
>>>> not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make
>>>> any copies. Violators may face court persecution.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>>>> Seun Ojedeji,
>>>> Federal University Oye-Ekiti
>>>> web: http://www.fuoye.edu.ng
>>>> Mobile: +2348035233535
>>>> alt email: seun.ojedeji at fuoye.edu.ng
>>>>
>>>> The key to understanding is humility - my view !
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> ____
>>>> REMMY NWEKE,
>>>> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
>>>> DigitalSENSE Africa Media Ltd
>>>> (publishers of) DigitalSENSE Business News;
>>>> ITREALMS, NaijaAgroNet
>>>> (Multiple-award winning medium)
>>>> Published by: DigitalSENSE Africa Media Ltd
>>>> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza
>>>> Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos
>>>> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475,
>>>> T: @ITRealms
>>>> [Member, NIRA Executive Board]
>>>> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria
>>>> NDS Forum on Internet Governance for Development (IG4D) 2014<
>>> http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng>- June 5
>>>> Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable 2014 <http://www.ipv6forumnigeria.ng> - June 6
>>>> @Welcome Centre Hotels. Register now. Email: remnekkv at gmail.com
>>>> _____________________________________________________________________
>>>> *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and
>>> attachments
>>>> are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended
>>>> only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept
>>> legal
>>>> responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the
>>> intended
>>>> recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and
>>> do
>>>> not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make
>>>> any copies. Violators may face court persecution.
>>>> _______________________________________________
>>>> AfrICANN mailing list
>>>> AfrICANN at afrinic.net
>>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann
>>
>>
>> --
>> ____
>> REMMY NWEKE,
>> Lead Strategist/Group Executive Editor,
>> DigitalSENSE Africa Media Ltd
>> (publishers of) DigitalSENSE Business News;
>> ITREALMS, NaijaAgroNet
>> (Multiple-award winning medium)
>> Published by: DigitalSENSE Africa Media Ltd
>> Block F1, Shop 133 Moyosore Aboderin Plaza
>> Bolade Junction, Oshodi-Lagos
>> M: 234-8033592762, 8023122558, 8051000475,
>> T: @ITRealms <http://www.twitter.com/ITRealms>
>> [Member, NIRA Executive Board]
>> Author: A Decade of ICT Reportage in Nigeria
>> <https://www.facebook.com/adecadeofictreportageinnigeria>
>> NDS Forum on Internet Governance for Development (IG4D) 2014<
>> http://www.digitalsenseafrica.com.ng>- June 5
>> Nigeria IPv6 Roundtable 2014 <http://www.ipv6forumnigeria.ng> - June 6
>> @Welcome Centre Hotels. Register now. Email: remnekkv at gmail.com
>> _____________________________________________________________________
>> *Confidentiality Notice:* The information in this document and attachments
>> are confidential and may also be privileged information. It is intended
>> only for the use of the named recipient. Remmy Nweke does not accept legal
>> responsibility for the contents of this e-mail. If you are not the
>> intended
>> recipient, please notify me immediately, then delete this document and do
>> not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor make
>> any copies. Violators may face court persecution.
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