[AfrICANN-discuss] Management of African ccTLDs: Panne du .td?

Wed Sep 19 11:09:15 SAST 2012

Hi,
the .td seems to be up now, thanks to France Telecom (bow.rain.fr is 
serving .td requests now). But we are still working to pass all the IANA 
tests on the primary servers.
Let us know if you discover any problem.
Regards

Le 19/09/2012 07:22, Anne-Rachel Inné a écrit :
> All,
>
> The Admin contact for dot TD will do what is required today to do the
> expedited process at IANA for name servers changes. The TD people will
> explain in due time what happened. There were correlations of events
> that were not known by both sides and  that is being corrected.
>
> Cheers,
> AR
>
>
> On Wed, Sep 19, 2012 at 12:15 AM, Dr Paulos Nyirenda <paulos at sdnp.org.mw> wrote:
>> I also recall that ICANN indicated that there was an emergency service for IANA
>> functions, may be this is one such situation where this could have kicked in. I also
>> recall that ICANN did put out an emergency 24x7 telephone number for things like this.
>>
>> Mike, we carried out a study under AFTLD to assess status of African ccTLDs and you can
>> see the presentation at:
>> http://www.aftld.org/SA2008/docs/presentations/Day1/ccTLDs-in-Africa-Dr-P-Nyirenda.mw-ccTLD-pub.pdf.
>>
>> On slide 19 you will see that there are at least 5 African ccTLDs with only 2
>> nameservers and at least one of those, .gw, had all nameservers on its own network. I
>> hope this precarious situation has improved since that study was done in 2008.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Paulos
>> ==============================
>> Dr Paulos Nyirenda
>> Malawi .mw ccTLD
>> Malawi SDNP Coodinator
>>
>> On 18 Sep 2012 at 17:57, Mark Elkins wrote:
>>
>>> I thought that official technical contacts could more or less update the
>>> IANA database in real-time (which is the impression I got from a Kim
>>> Davies presentation a few years ago). If AfriNIC was running a secondary
>>> on their AnyCast system - this should have stopped the zone disappearing
>>> - but I see even now just the two nameservers (bow.rain.fr. and
>>> bow.intnet.td.)
>>>
>>> Is any other African country in a similarly precarious state? Are you
>>> aware that AfriNIC can host a Secondary Anycast nameserver instance for
>>> you?
>>>
>>> On Tue, 2012-09-18 at 15:16 +0100, Adamou Nacer wrote:
>>>> Hi Dr Paulos,
>>>> I have spend the whole morning discussing about this issue with the
>>>> telecommunication regulator's representatives and the manager of the
>>>> primary nameservers at sotel (national telco).
>>>> So what happens is simple.
>>>> - Sotel was in contract with France Telecom which provided the IP
>>>> addresses they were using for the .td primary servers.
>>>> - That contract was suddenly stopped and then, France Telecom got back
>>>> its addresses.
>>>> - In the meantime, the guys managing the .td nameservers installed new
>>>> nameservers (with Sotel's owned IP addresses from AfriNIC) and were
>>>> supported by AfriNIC and Afnic which host secondary servers.The IANA's
>>>> database update process was started but is not completed till now. So
>>>> the sudden withdrawal of France Telecom's IP addresses combined with the
>>>> ongoing database update operation resulted in this situation.
>>>> As a summary, the main reason of this is lack of planning.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Le 18/09/2012 11:23, Dr Paulos Nyirenda a écrit :
>>>>> We got a report of this issue at .td at the AFTLD Annual Meeting in Livingstone,
>>> Zambia
>>>>> in July 2012 and many of us have attempted to get in touch with .td without much
>>> success.
>>>>> What may also be noted is that it seems that there have been not complaints or
>>> reports
>>>>> from within Chad. It hence seems necessary to ask whether this is a problem for
>>> the
>>>>> Internet community within Chad. Are there "significantly interested parties" in
>>> this
>>>>> issue within Chad?
>>>>>
>>>>> We have also tried to contact those that seem to have been running the secondary
>>> DNS
>>>>> services, not much luck there either - no one replies to the addresses in the SOA,
>>> even
>>>>> from servers on .fr - so why were they chosen to run secondary DNS services?
>>>>>
>>>>> The FOIWG of the ccNSO is discussing what may be interpretted as "substantial
>>>>> misbehaviour" of a ccTLD manager and the conditions that must exist for them to be
>>>>> interpretted as adequate for IANA intervention as stipulated in RFC1591. Are we
>>> there yet
>>>>> for this case?
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>
>>>>> Paulos
>>>>> ======================
>>>>> Dr Paulos B Nyirenda
>>>>> NIC.MW & .mw ccTLD
>>>>> http://www.registrar.mw
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 18 Sep 2012 at 9:21, Adamou Nacer wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Nigel,
>>>>>> Le 17/09/2012 17:03, Nigel Roberts a écrit :
>>>>>>> I don't want to make this sound like a commercial (and there are
>>>>>>> others - also inside Africa - who no doubt can offer to assist as
>>>>>>> well) but just to mention we may be able to help any African ccTLDs
>>>>>>> who maybe need additional resources -- from a simple secondary
>>>>>>> nameserver right through to a complete backend registry.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Happy to be contacted at any time. Off list, probably, best.
>>>>>> In fact the problem is not only technical. I think they have support
>>>>>> from afnic. But you see, that isn't enough. I called a friend of mine
>>>>>> close to that file and he promised to introduce me to SOTEL and OTRT. I
>>>>>> will come back with more information on that issue as soon as possible.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also, is this mailing list the right place to get assistance on this
>>>>>> kind of issue?
>>>>>> Regards
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