[AfrICANN-discuss] A brief update on the ASWG

Sun Sep 9 23:27:58 SAST 2012

Barrak, for the record, I have nothing personal against you or anyone at all.

   fallacious and misinformed and create the purportedwedge between you and the community please get your facts right and
save us from this negative energy

You should be backing up your words with some substance or data when you accuse people of such statements, as you seem to use such words frequently and without regard for the facts, more like to evade the real issues. There is no negative energy in this. It is called debating the issues.   If you cannot handle it the heat, don't get close to the fire.  

--Lerato Ma

>________________________________
> From: Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
>To: Lerato <yes2dotafrica at dotconnectafrica.org> 
>Cc: "africann at afrinic.net" <africann at afrinic.net> 
>Sent: Sunday, September 9, 2012 12:59 PM
>Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] A brief update on the ASWG
> 
>Lerato,
>
>If you have an issue with me square it out off the list otherwise the
>community does not deserve this personal wars, some off your
>assertions are fallacious and misinformed and create the purported
>wedge between you and the community please get your facts right and
>save us from this negative energy, as i mentioned before i will not
>respond to a mosquito bite with a hammer.
>
>Peace
>
>On Sun, Sep 9, 2012 at 7:00 PM, Lerato <lerato.ma at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>  NB : Group members : Maimouna Diop; Palesa Banda Legozi , Nii Quaynor
>>> (Chair), Barrack Otieno; Alice Munyua; Mouhamet Diop; Tijani Benjemaa;
>>> Michel Tchonang Linze; Pierre Dandjinou
>>
>> You think putting together this working group above who is on one side of
>> the aisle (or to use your term affiliation) is legitimate in your views
>> Barrack, despite Rop at an early point of the exclusion discussion pointed
>> out that DCA was a key player in ICANN Africa and was excluded.  Why don't
>> you simply call it "AfricaOneSpace Africa Strategy?  I can see why you keep
>> defending it now.
>>
>> I understand such is not even in the tradition of ICANN.   If this is really
>> an ICANN supported WG,  how come the WG is formed only on one side of a
>> constituency?.  The mannerism of self-election and electing one's WG is
>> typical African and not an ICANN tradition.  I see why now the final WG was
>> not circulated at an earlier time before the announcement, giving an
>> impression there was consensus. You guys are in hallucination.  Good luck
>> with your Africa strategy, just do not be surprised when another one pops
>> out under a different constituency. After all there was no consensus on a
>> one .africa either!
>>
>> --Lerato Ma
>>
>> ________________________________
>> From: "otieno.barrack at gmail.com" <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
>> To: africann at afrinic.net
>> Sent: Saturday, September 8, 2012 11:49 PM
>>
>> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] A brief update on the ASWG
>>
>> I echo your sentiments Badru, let us all participate in the process.
>> Sent from my BlackBerry(R)
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>
>> Sender: africann-bounces at afrinic.net
>> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 08:59:30
>> To: <africann at afrinic.net><africann at afrinic.net>
>> Reply-To: africann at afrinic.net
>> Cc: <africann at afrinic.net><africann at afrinic.net>
>> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] A brief update on the ASWG
>>
>> Thanks Pierre
>>
>> I hope a large number of the community participates.  And thus remove the
>> myth of capture being cultivated by a few in the community.
>>
>> I also hope many on the list will share with their local lists to have as
>> many as possible participate and share views.  That way we move positively
>> forward as one majority community.
>>
>> Looking forward to the website.
>>
>> Badru Ntege
>> CEO
>> NFT Consult Ltd
>> Www.Nftconsult.com
>>
>> "Vision without execution is hallucination."
>> -- Thomas A. Edison
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9 Sep 2012, at 01:43, Dandjinou Pierre <pdandjinou at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Dear Listers,
>>>
>>> (NB : version francaise ci- dessous)
>>>
>>> The Icann Africa strategy Working Group held its retreat in Mauritius
>>> on 27-28 August. The meeting was facilitated by ICANN and AfriNIC.
>>>
>>> The Group of 9 (4 initial core members + 5 Reps from regions and
>>> Constituencies) had a fruitful gathering and will be posting its
>>> working documents on a dedicated website to facilitate public access.
>>> The community will then have 15 days for its further comments and
>>> submissions before the group finalizes its recommendations.
>>>
>>> The public website should be available early next week. Meanwhile, the
>>> Group wishes to thank all those who took the effort to complete the
>>> questionnaires. The evaluation of the questionnaires and primary
>>> discussions with representatives of the constituencies (Governments,
>>> Registries, registrars, registrants, ALAC, Academia..etc) allowed the
>>> group to brainstorm on strategic objectives, projects and measures of
>>> impact. A key decision of the group is to conduct further
>>> consultations and the website is going to be the conduit. You are
>>> therefore kindly requested to provide your feedback, once the site is
>>> up and running as of next week!.
>>>
>>> We are also attaching an evaluation of the questionnaires, for your
>>> information.
>>>
>>> Best regards
>>> Pierre on behalf of the ASWG
>>>
>>> NB : Group members : Maimouna Diop; Palesa Banda Legozi , Nii Quaynor
>>> (Chair), Barrack Otieno; Alice Munyua; Mouhamet Diop; Tijani Benjemaa;
>>> Michel Tchonang Linze; Pierre Dandjinou
>>>
>>>
>>> La retraite du Groupe de travail pour la strategie africaine de
>>> l'ICANN a eu lieu a Maurice du 27 au 28 Aout 2012. Elle a ete
>>> facilitee par l'ICANN et AfriNIC.
>>>
>>> Le Groupe de 9 personnes (4 initiaux et 5 autres representants les
>>> regions et constituantes de l'ICANN) a eu une rencontre fructueuse et
>>> les documents de travail generes seront postes sur un site des la
>>> semaine prochaine.La communaute disposera alors de 15 jours pour ses
>>> commentaires et propositions, avant que le groupe ne finalise ses
>>> recommandations.
>>>
>>> Le Groupe remercie ceux qui ont pri sur eux de remplir les
>>> questionnaires. Sur la base de l'evaluation des questionnaires, et des
>>> discussions tenues avec des representants de diveres constituantes
>>> (Gouvernements, registres, registraires, registrants,ALAC et autres),
>>> a pu mener ses discussions et retenir quelques objectifs strateiques,
>>> des idees de projets ainsi que des criteres d'evaluation..Une decision
>>> majeure du groupe est de poursuivre l'engagement avec la communaute
>>> par le biais du site web. Merci donc de le visiter des la semaine
>>> prochaine et d'y apporter vos remarques et suggestions.
>>>
>>> Enfin, pour votre information, nous attachons l'evaluation des
>>> questionnaires recus.
>>>
>>> Sinceres salutations
>>>
>>> Pierre pour le ASWG
>>>
>>> NB : membre du Groupe : Maimouna Diop; Palesa Banda Legozi , Nii
>>> Quaynor (Chair), Barrack Otieno; Alice Munyua; Mouhamet Diop; Tijani
>>> Benjemaa; Michel Tchonang Linze; Pierre Dandjinou
>>> <Assessment.doc>
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>>> AfrICANN at afrinic.net
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