[AfrICANN-discuss] Let's be proactive

Nii Narku Quaynor quaynor at ghana.com
Tue Oct 30 10:50:02 SAST 2012 


On Oct 30, 2012, at 8:40, Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr> wrote:

> It is never too late. What about Whois service (for domain names and IP addresses)? And the policy to be put in place to have a Whois data who is accurate?
> 
Are proposing the country do this for gTLD?

> It is regulation or not?
> 
> Domain name dispute is also part of the regulation.
> 
>  
> De : Vika Mpisane <vika at zadna.org.za>
> À : africann at afrinic.net 
> Envoyé le : Mardi 30 octobre 2012 8h33
> Objet : Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Let's be proactive
> 
> +++1 here too. 
> 
> Regulating domain names & IP addresses is not something I've ever heard of. I've heard of domain name dispute regulation, which of course only regulates how disputes over a domain name in a particular top level domain (TLD) should be handled & resolved.
> 
> 
> From: Ntege Badru <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>
> Reply-To: <africann at afrinic.net>
> Date: Tuesday 30 October 2012 8:32 AM
> To: "<africann at afrinic.net>" <africann at afrinic.net>
> Cc: "africann at afrinic.net" <africann at afrinic.net>, Dr Eberhard Lisse <el at lisse.NA>
> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Let's be proactive
> 
> +++1
> 
> 
> On 30 Oct 2012, at 07:20, "Nii Narku Quaynor" <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:
> 
>> So, exactly what is to be regulated about Internet in a country ? No answer...
> 
> Country's regulate access...connectivity and infrastructure. (which they are failing miserably). There is a big difference between a nicely written policy document (which I call intent) and actual on the ground implementation (results).
> 
> The collective bottom up process has achieved allot more than any one government has ever achieved for the Internet.  So I'm still puzzled why some on the list still want to take us back to the domain of what I like to call Paralysis Through Analysis (PTA).  
> 
> Let's build on the rough consensus platform it has brought us this far we just need to keep perfecting it by wider consultation and knowledge sharing to help others contribute effectively with value from a knowledgable perspective.
> 
>> 
>> On Oct 29, 2012, at 23:46, Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> Oga Nii.. You are right but that system belongs to bad governance unfortunately and should be revamped since it does not apply to Internet-based economy. Im aware of Communications Regulations bodies eg WATRA. That applies to Mobile and fixed Telecomms but not applicable to Internet. Why? Because it froze there since the effort to make Laws recognize the location free Internet-based economy is not yet in the Books? Attempts have been made but it needs another Law to do that. It is like establishing Traffic Lights in the Sky?
>>> I recall this issue of Laws was discussed in 2005 at Mar de Plata but did not cross the borders ...why?
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Regulators typically issue licenses, determine number of operators, type of operators, set fees, set standards, enforce regulations, decide on interconnections, etc....which goes well beyond "organize" to more like "control"
>>> 
>>> Business development organizations "organize" while telecom regulators "control"
>>> 
>>> On Oct 29, 2012, at 22:07, Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> For me, "regulate" does not mean control. "Regulate" is a bit like "organize".
>>>>  
>>>> --
>>>> Pierre Lotis NANKEP
>>>> IT Engineer / ANTIC
>>>> Web : http://www.antic.cm
>>>> Email (Pro) : pierre.nankep at antic.cm
>>>> GSM : +237 77 66 10 07
>>>> De : Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.NA>
>>>> À : africann at afrinic.net; Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr> 
>>>> Envoyé le : Lundi 29 octobre 2012 23h01
>>>> Objet : Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Let's be proactive
>>>> 
>>>> So you can tap communications, censor publications, enrich yourself or your nephew through competitive advantage, and whatnot, for starters.
>>>> 
>>>> But then you were asking rethorically, of course.
>>>> 
>>>> El
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from Dr Lisse's BlackBerry PlayBook
>>>> 
>>>> From: "Nii Narku Quaynor" <quaynor at ghana.com>
>>>> To: "Pierre Lotis NANKEP" <lnankep at yahoo.fr>, "africann at afrinic.net" <africann at afrinic.net>
>>>> Sent: October 29, 2012 11:17 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Let's be proactive
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Oct 29, 2012, at 20:42, Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr> wrote:
>>>>> Currently, We are working on legislation relating to Internet Regulation, which will be operational by the end of this year 2012.
>>>>> 
>>>> Why would want to regulate the Internet whose standards and coordination are global ? (perhaps you mean something else?)
>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> 
>>>>>  
>>>>> --
>>>>> Pierre Lotis NANKEP
>>>>> IT Engineer / ANTIC
>>>>> Web : http://www.antic.cm
>>>>> Email (Pro) : pierre.nankep at antic.cm
>>>>> GSM : +237 77 66 10 07
>>>>> De : Thierry Sanzhie Bokally <sanzhiet at gmail.com>
>>>>> À : africann at afrinic.net 
>>>>> Envoyé le : Lundi 29 octobre 2012 21h17
>>>>> Objet : Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Let's be proactive
>>>>> 
>>>>> Dear, 
>>>>> 
>>>>> If the can help the list of african countries with active national ICT plans : http://www.oafrica.com/ict-policy/african-nations-with-active-national-ict-plans/ 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Le 28/10/2012 10:36, Y Mshana2003 a écrit :
>>>>>> I believe that ICT Policies is the foundation because ICANN is not a levitating Organisation. Its Constituents are made by individuals from different countries. Therefore individuals serving in ICANN must have joined the organisation with something from home country to contribute!  that "thing" is policy in addition to good intention.
>>>>>> In that case country ICT policy is important to have had.  Does each country possess one?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Yassin
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I thought this list is about ICANN and Internet or is it for ICT now? 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Oct 28, 2012, at 9:33, Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thank P for this.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Shall we begin by looking whether each country has an uptodate ICT Policy? If now how can they be encouraged to craft one? I ll be ready to put energy into that. This is especially on policy that encourage Private Sector development for the benefit of its people and the Africa region.
>>>>>>> Let us take stock since it is more than 10 years now since the need of ICT policies became obvious.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Why m I suggesting this? Policy is the foundation.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Yassin
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Dandjinou Pierre <pdandjinou at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Colleagues,
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> As you must have noticed, the discussions in the last weeks only turned out to be a ping pong party between 2 or 3 people. Of course, others, be they elders, pioneers, youngsters and babies (!) could not find any interest in the debate..
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Another Bantu (Aka) proverbs states that 'When you open your mouth in public to address people, make sure you are concise, to the point and not too long! For if you fail to do this, you might make your audience turn away and leave you alone in the circle!!'
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Thus, may I suggest we just concentrate on a few simple and doable things which make a difference in the development of Africa's Internet ecosystem?
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> May we share those information, documents and facts that are of interest to us all ? May we showcase those successes/and failures which show individual countries are moving ahead in building their own Internet environment?
>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> Pierre D. 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>> Pierre Dandjinou
>>>>>>> Cotonou - 229 90 087784 / 66566610
>>>>>>> Dakar 221 77 639 30 41
>>>>>>> www.scg.bj
>>>>>>> skype : sagbo1953
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>  
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