[AfrICANN-discuss] The "ICANN Africa Strategy" Is Not the Same as the 'African Agenda'

Y Mshana2003 ymshana2003 at gmail.com
Sat Oct 27 22:19:24 SAST 2012

That is why I requested ....I did not direct you or anyone to disarm their guns...let them shoot as they wish if you dont. I have high respect on everybody Sir but respect should go both ways.

Secondly on "contributing" to issues....does it mean that we starting looking at who is contributing what and when? Even if it is a repetition of what has been said? We are not in th Ballot Voting business in my opinion. I know the political elections fever can be extended inadvertently into Internet business. We should not look at "who is in the Rally and What they contribute" I leave that to politicians we work for or with.

I dont have to blow my trampet when I contribute directly or otherwise. Please spare my freedom on that. I do not need a recognition for anything I do or dont do. I m just around here...

Its easier to be simple - thats me Yassin

From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.

Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:

..you are doing what you often do which is being accusatory. I have no gun; you are proposing to kill babies and I say let them live. 

How does that shoot anything...I can't have an opinion ?

You want to be the single chief that always ask for things to stop, kill things and never proposing what adds to anything. You could not even answer a questionnaire nor comment on professional strategy documents but were quick to write letters and articles....

Learn to add value instead of always pointing fingers at others!

On Oct 27, 2012, at 19:31, Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com> wrote:

The weak will unless extra care is provided.
Btw why allow the conception to begin with if it could be avoided? Oga Nii please its time you put the gun down and let ideas fly- dont shoot them down. Let others have an opinions heard. 
I am requesting this for the benefit of others who come in with ideas.
There is no single Chief in this global phenomenon called the Internet as much as I respect the Recognition of those who have contributed to bring us to this Stage, I dont think it is fair to the up and coming generation to be shoved off when they have something to say. We have the most Democratic Society when we look at ICANN processes - that can be ruined if others voice and opinions are treated in the manner it is now.

This may raise a question about How neutrally is the ICANN Board is advised/informed about African issues. I have started having some doughts about that... I might be wrong though.
I stop there.
Kind regards

From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.

Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:

...feel free to live in ancient times. Some of us want to move forward into a future without killing babies

On Oct 27, 2012, at 13:49, Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com> wrote:

Lets just the babies example. It is in African history of Bantus what they did to babies who were with any signs of deformity or disability.... They were made to die. Thats what they did....
Sounds horrible but it happened! 

From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.

Nii Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:

...and not killing babies, please

On Oct 26, 2012, at 12:58, Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com> wrote:

We done one and all:-) 
Good discussion going on there...

In my opinion, Agenda is an agenda - call it a anything E.g. Policy Statement for.....? Strategy should be the strategy to address the Agenda. This would the be followed by an Implementation Framework. Then the Implementation Plan with identifued or specific Actions/programmes/projects with: outputs, indicators, risks, outcome, costs etc..

All in all the process thould involve all Africans through nominated representatives of equal voice and vote.

That is what I would wish to happen.

Thank you for reading this.

From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.

Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr> wrote:

My dear Adamou,

The first project (African Agenda) would have died at birth.
The second project (ICANN Africa Strategy) is poorly designed and probably would not have a long life. It looks like a premature baby.
But fortunately some premature babies can succeed in life. In any case, we want the best for this second project and are ready to fly to his rescue.

Best regards
Pierre Lotis NANKEP
IT Engineer / ANTIC
Web : http://www.antic.cm
Email (Pro) : pierre.nankep at antic.cm
GSM : +237 77 66 10 07
De : Vika Mpisane <vika at zadna.org.za>
À : africann at afrinic.net 
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Objet : Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The "ICANN Africa Strategy" Is Not the Same as the 'African Agenda'

Agreed. I suppose in fact the ICANN Africa Strategy has practically become the channel for Africa & the "African Agenda" (whatever that is, really). The issues are not new at all, but hopefully the new ICANN leadership is keen to put its money into this…as a single, unduplicated effort.


From: Adamou Nacer <adamou.nacer at gmail.com>
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Date: Thursday 25 October 2012 2:04 PM
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Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The "ICANN Africa Strategy" Is Not the Same as the 'African Agenda'

And also that we don't need two initiatives that try to solve the same problem. Probably, it would be better to have the two projects to merge and then avoid wasting energy and resources.
Just an opinion.

Le 25/10/2012 12:50, Vika Mpisane a écrit :
At least we can agree both initiatives (African agenda & African strategy) are about advancing Africa's participation at ICANN regardless of who's behind them…


Vika Mpisane | Tel: +27 11 314 0077

From: Gideon <gideonrop at gmail.com>
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The "ICANN Africa Strategy" Is Not the Same as the 'African Agenda'

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