[AfrICANN-discuss] The "ICANN Africa Strategy" Is Not the Same as the 'African Agenda'

Sat Oct 27 21:53:38 SAST 2012

Talking about babies Dr Lisse is an obstetrician and a gynecologist by professional training. Perhaps you should listen to his expert opinion for once!

On Oct 27, 2012, at 19:12, Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I knew Dic will come heavy on this...
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> Now what should we do to even avoid the conception of such babies Doc? I m talking about The African Agendas and Strategies.
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> Btw where is the Teenage called NEPAD? Whats happening with this African strategy which was supposed to be our umbrella? Stunted growth maybe?
> I am posing this to all of us not Doc alone please..
> Cheers
> Yassin
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> From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
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> Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na> wrote:
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> As it so happens not only in history and not only Bantus and not only the ones with deformities or abnormalities
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> Maternal, neonatal nor infant mortality in Africa are shocking in spite of the eloquence of the individuals responsible, who travel in style, live in luxury, do not frequent the hospitals or schools they are in charge off, and like agendas and funding by "development partners".
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> PDP
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> el
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> Sent from the iPhone of
> Dr. Eberhard W. Lisse
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> On Oct 27, 2012, at 15:49, Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Lets just the babies example. It is in African history of Bantus what they did to babies who were with any signs of deformity or disability.... They were made to die. Thats what they did....
>> Sounds horrible but it happened! 
>> .....
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>> From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
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>> Nii Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:
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>> ...and not killing babies, please
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>> On Oct 26, 2012, at 12:58, Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> We done one and all:-) 
>>> Good discussion going on there...
>>> 
>>> In my opinion, Agenda is an agenda - call it a anything E.g. Policy Statement for.....? Strategy should be the strategy to address the Agenda. This would the be followed by an Implementation Framework. Then the Implementation Plan with identifued or specific Actions/programmes/projects with: outputs, indicators, risks, outcome, costs etc..
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>>> All in all the process thould involve all Africans through nominated representatives of equal voice and vote.
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>>> That is what I would wish to happen.
>>> 
>>> Thank you for reading this.
>>> Yassin
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>>> 
>>> From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
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>>> 
>>> Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr> wrote:
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>>> My dear Adamou,
>>> 
>>> The first project (African Agenda) would have died at birth.
>>> The second project (ICANN Africa Strategy) is poorly designed and probably would not have a long life. It looks like a premature baby.
>>> But fortunately some premature babies can succeed in life. In any case, we want the best for this second project and are ready to fly to his rescue.
>>> 
>>> Best regards
>>>  
>>> --
>>> Pierre Lotis NANKEP
>>> IT Engineer / ANTIC
>>> Web : http://www.antic.cm
>>> Email (Pro) : pierre.nankep at antic.cm
>>> GSM : +237 77 66 10 07
>>> De : Vika Mpisane <vika at zadna.org.za>
>>> À : africann at afrinic.net 
>>> Envoyé le : Jeudi 25 octobre 2012 14h12
>>> Objet : Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The "ICANN Africa Strategy" Is Not the Same as the 'African Agenda'
>>> 
>>> Agreed. I suppose in fact the ICANN Africa Strategy has practically become the channel for Africa & the "African Agenda" (whatever that is, really). The issues are not new at all, but hopefully the new ICANN leadership is keen to put its money into this…as a single, unduplicated effort.
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Vika
>>> 
>>> From: Adamou Nacer <adamou.nacer at gmail.com>
>>> Reply-To: <africann at afrinic.net>
>>> Date: Thursday 25 October 2012 2:04 PM
>>> To: <africann at afrinic.net>
>>> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The "ICANN Africa Strategy" Is Not the Same as the 'African Agenda'
>>> 
>>> And also that we don't need two initiatives that try to solve the same problem. Probably, it would be better to have the two projects to merge and then avoid wasting energy and resources.
>>> Just an opinion.
>>> Regards
>>> 
>>> Le 25/10/2012 12:50, Vika Mpisane a écrit :
>>>> At least we can agree both initiatives (African agenda & African strategy) are about advancing Africa's participation at ICANN regardless of who's behind them…
>>>> 
>>>> Regards,
>>>> 
>>>> Vika Mpisane | Tel: +27 11 314 0077
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>>>> 
>>>> From: Gideon <gideonrop at gmail.com>
>>>> Reply-To: <africann at afrinic.net>
>>>> Date: Thursday 25 October 2012 8:31 AM
>>>> To: <africann at afrinic.net>
>>>> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] The "ICANN Africa Strategy" Is Not the Same as the 'African Agenda'
>>>> 
>>>> The "ICANN Africa Strategy" Is Not the Same as the 'African Agenda'
>>>> http://www.circleid.com/posts/20121024_icann_africa_strategy_is_not_the_same_as_the_african_agenda/
>>>> 
>>>> Gideon Rop
>>>> DotConnectAfrica
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