[AfrICANN-discuss] The "ICANN Africa Strategy" Is Not the Same as the 'African Agenda'

bouba djamaab at yahoo.fr
Thu Oct 25 10:56:17 SAST 2012 

Hello to you all,
This is my first time to interven here
but I am following the debate for some time.
I don't know why sometimes some of our
brothers are surprised that some important decisions are taken
without us, or without our point of view. 
 
Oh brother Gideon, I do not know why
you are surprised that The "ICANN Africa Strategy" Is Not
the Same as the 'African Agenda'.
I remember some relevant interventions
made before by some  like Pierre Lotis NANKEP on this subject.
 
We pass our time to congratulate each
other as a fellow to attend this or that, but the issue is somewhere
else. 
Some of our “experts” congratulate
themselves to travel and physically meet to develop or even give
their views on this strategy. So I am wondering where is our issue?
Travelling or developing our strategy?
 
If our goal is to develop the strategy,
then I think we have to dismiss this approach. 
 
1- Firstly, we choose a wrong
methodology to compose our group of experts. 
 
I saw la list of our experts. I don't
see the way how they were chosen. 
The transparent methodology is make a
something said “call of tender or call for applications” with
some relevant criterias concerning the subject. And it has to be
opened and published everywhere in all different official language in
Africa (I know English is working language).

That list of African experts is
composed mainly of one region (West Africa). Some regions are
represented as cosmetics. Central Africa, for example, I wonder how
its representative was chosen. We know him competent in several
domains but not in developing strategies.
 
Do not hesitate to get away from this
non-constructive way of choosing our friends and buddies instead of
going through a call for applications. This method can not help us
choose ambassadors can adequately defend our interests.
 
2- Secondly, we don't need to travel to
Toronto or anywhere out of the continent to develop our strategy. 
 
We don't need even to travel for that.
Why don't we use that tool call “Internet” to describe/highlight
our vision, our objectives and goals.
After that, we can define our
pillars/axis, then programmes and projets that could help us to
achieve our goals. 
 
3- and finally,I think in the call for applications,
we should put as requirements, if the candidate is not a
true-recognized expert in development of  strategy, he must have at
least to participate in the development of IT strategy in his country
of origin or residence.
 
May Allah guide us to better defend the
interests of our region.
Peace be upon you all.

 
----
Eng. Djamaa BOUBA
Director of Normalisation and Cooperation
National Agency for ICTs
Yaoundé-Cameroun
Email (Pro) : bouba at antic.cm
GSM : +237 77 32 46 17



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 De : Gideon <gideonrop at gmail.com>
À : africann at afrinic.net 
Envoyé le : Jeudi 25 octobre 2012 7h31
Objet : [AfrICANN-discuss] The "ICANN Africa Strategy" Is Not the Same as the 'African Agenda'
 

The "ICANN Africa Strategy" Is Not the Same as the 'African Agenda'
http://www.circleid.com/posts/20121024_icann_africa_strategy_is_not_the_same_as_the_african_agenda/

Gideon Rop
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>Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest, Vol 68, Issue 100
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>Greetings Gedion.
>Please give your energy to things that matter. Ignore distractions.
>Good luck:-)
>Yassin
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>>From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
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>Gideon <gideonrop at gmail.com> wrote:
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>Pierre,
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>Thanks for your reply.  I am glad the info can be useful. Not to be defending myself it is me posting and one can verify by the IP address. Sophia is not even in Kenya currently. Have no idea what his problem is with us, but it seems like with everyone else as well.
>
>Gideon Rop.
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>That may be so, but is not cybersecurity/cyberwar.
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>Just business practice.
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>el
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>On 2012-10-23 07:59 , Kayode Yussuf wrote:
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>> Hi all,
>>
>> I join my voice to say there is a lot to attack in Africa.  As
>> long as you digitize information and that information has any sort
>> of value, then you have to protect it.
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>> Kayode Yussuf
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>How so?  Doesn't cyberwar include stealing classified information by a
>politically motivated attacker?
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>On 23 October 2012 17:46, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na> wrote:
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>> That may be so, but is not cybersecurity/cyberwar.
>>
>> Just business practice.
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>> el
>>
>> On 2012-10-23 07:59 , Kayode Yussuf wrote:
>> >
>> > Hi all,
>> >
>> > I join my voice to say there is a lot to attack in Africa.  As
>> > long as you digitize information and that information has any sort
>> > of value, then you have to protect it.
>> >
>> > Kayode Yussuf
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>From: Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr>
>Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest, Vol 68, Issue 92
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>Gideon (I don't care if it is Sophia or anybody else) yes of course, that article addresses one dimension of that critical issue (cybersecurity/cybecrime).
>Thanks for sharing this with us.
>
> 
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>________________________________
> De : Gideon <gideonrop at gmail.com>
>À : africann at afrinic.net
>Cc : llnankep at yahoo.fr; ileleji at ymca.gm
>Envoyé le : Mardi 23 octobre 2012 15h12
>Objet : [AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest, Vol 68, Issue 92
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>
>Hi Pierre and all,
>
>I think this article is a good addition to what you are looking for ; -
>
> Emerging Cyber-Security Threats and Implications for the Private Sector  http://www.circleid.com/posts/20121013_emerging_cybersecurity_threats_and_implications_for_private_sector/
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>Gideon Rop,
>DotConnectAfrica.
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>On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 10:16 AM, <africann-request at afrinic.net> wrote:
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>>   2. Re: The world is moving gradually towards cyber war
>>      (Pierre Lotis NANKEP)
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>>Message: 1
>>Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 07:58:45 +0100 (BST)
>>From: Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr>
>>Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving gradually towards
>>        cyber war
>>To: "africann at afrinic.net" <africann at afrinic.net>
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>>+++1 Poncelet
>>
>> 
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>>Pierre Lotis NANKEP
>>IT Engineer / ANTIC
>>Web : http://www.antic.cm
>>Email (Pro) : pierre.nankep at antic.cm
>>GSM : +237 77 66 10 07
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>>
>>________________________________
>> De : Poncelet Ileleji <pileleji at ymca.gm>
>>À : africann at afrinic.net
>>Envoyé le : Lundi 22 octobre 2012 23h13
>>Objet : Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving gradually towards cyber war
>>
>>
>>Hello Colleagues,
>>
>>I think it will be very naive to think there is nothing to attack in Africa with the numerous e governmental portals coming up and also as a lot of governmental data centre are been developed, these are systems that can be attacked. 
>>
>>The fact remains their is still a scramble  for resources in our continent, the recent crisis between South Sudan and Sudan says a lot.  The role of China as an emerging force technologically is their for all to see, 'How the ICANN community engages China come the 46th ICANN Meeting next year will be  interesting as China with Heuwei is playing a key role within Africa network communication Infrastructure  today. 
>>
>>Am not been paranoid but but Africa can be prone to attack it can be economic sabotage or multi nationals playing at each other etc, the billions Angola are going to pump on the electricity sector means technically  a lot of this new grid  will managed through computer networks, If Dos Santos achieves his aim that grid he plans to set up for all Angolans to have electricity will rely a lot on Computer systems infrastructure that need to be rigid and secured, but we can be prone, the sooner we realise our systems need better protection our cyber laws and initiatives need to conform with International standards like the initiatives taken by Mauritius the better for us all.
>>
>>My 0.00001% contribution to this interesting topic.
>>
>>Peace
>>
>>Poncelet
>>'
>> 
>>
>>
>>On 22 October 2012 18:33, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na> wrote:
>>
>>What is there to attack in Africa?
>>>
>>>el
>>>
>>>On 2012-10-22 17:49 , Claude Essomba wrote:
>>>> Thanks Pierre ,
>>>>
>>>> I really welcome this posted article.  The question that I am
>>>> asking regarding Africa is as follow : Are we ready to face such
>>>> attacks ?  Maybe we should like the US , Europe and other to
>>>> Simulate such attacks at the gov level to understand what could be
>>>> the impact.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> *CLAUDE VINCENT DE PAUL ESSOMBA*
>>>
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>>
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>>Coordinator
>>The Gambia YMCAs Computer Training Centre & Digital Studio
>>MDI Road Kanifing South
>>P. O. Box 421 Banjul
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>>Tel: (220) 4370240
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>>http://www.wsa-mobile.org/node/753
>>www.diplointernetgovernance.org
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>>From: Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr>
>>Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving gradually towards
>>        cyber war
>>To: Claude Essomba <claudeessomba at yahoo.ca>,    "africann at afrinic.net"
>>        <africann at afrinic.net>
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>>Thank you to Claude and Poncelet for your valuable contributions.
>>
>>To go in the same direction and demonstrate that the issues of cyberwar is global, and that Africa is not excluded, I would like to share with you a  book “The Quest for Cyber Peace† that was suggested to me by Alexander NTOKO of ITU : http://www.itu.int/pub/S-GEN-WFS.01-1-2011 (in ENGLISH, ARABIC, CHINESE, SPANISH, FRENCH and RUSSIAN).
>>
>>
>>Regards.
>>
>> 
>>--
>>Pierre Lotis NANKEP
>>IT Engineer / ANTIC
>>Web : http://www.antic.cm
>>Email (Pro) : pierre.nankep at antic.cm
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>>
>>________________________________
>> De : Claude Essomba <claudeessomba at yahoo.ca>
>>À : "africann at afrinic.net" <africann at afrinic.net>
>>Envoyé le : Mardi 23 octobre 2012 7h26
>>Objet : Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving gradually towards cyber war
>>
>>
>>Great I am glad we are moving forward with our discussion. Critical infrastructure to me means  any related ICT infrastructure supporting african countries critical business that if affected could have a large impact to the level that nothing will work. ie Airport , TV, Banks , Telecommunication , Applications for custom or application for salaries payments. In fact only risks analysis will help to identify such infrastructure. That is why vulnerability assessment and Penetration testing services are important to minimise the risks related to the critical indentified infrastructure.
>> 
>>Regards
>> 
>>CLAUDE VINCENT DE PAUL ESSOMBA
>>Founder and Principal Consultant GETSEC
>>Expert Cyber Sécurité-Cyber Criminalité CISSP; CISM; ISO 27001 LA.Cameroun
>>Tel:              +237 74 69 24 08
>>Mobile:        +237 98 98 04 65
>>E-mail:          claude.essomba at getsec.com
>>Website:       www.getsec.com
>>Address:       RUE PAU- Akwa-Douala
>>Company:     GLOBAL ENTERPRISE TECHNOLOGY AND SECURITY.
>> 
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>>112 William Booth Avenue, New market, On, L3X 3B2, Canada
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>>From: Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com>
>>To: "africann at afrinic.net" <africann at afrinic.net>
>>Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2012 2:54:16 AM
>>Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving gradually towards cyber war
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>>
>>....second attempt and still no answer? It's tiresome reading and not making progress 
>>
>>On Oct 22, 2012, at 23:28, Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>Btw Africa has other values to protect beyond the developing minimal digital infrastructure which is now becoming important and about 99% did without until 1980s
>>>
>>>
>>>Keep on discussing please constructively.
>>>Yassin
>>>
>>>
>>>From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
>>>
>>>
>>>Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.NA> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>And that infrastructure would be, what?
>>>
>>>el
>>>
>>>On 2012-10-22 23:18 , Claude Essomba wrote:
>>>> Dear Dr Eberhard W Lisse ,
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for your
>> reaction.  The minimum for most of the countries
>>>> to be protected is what we call critical infrastructure.  A
>>>> simulation could include the impact when the critical
>>>> infrastructure is affected as it was the case for the Estonia
>>>> again Russia.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> *CLAUDE VINCENT DE PAUL ESSOMBA*
>>>
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