[AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving gradually towards cyber war

Kayode Yussuf kayusyussuf at yahoo.com
Wed Oct 24 07:52:53 SAST 2012 

Hi all,

I do not think we should hail insults on each other, if you feel someone is wrong please give what you feel is the correct opinion with no hard feelings.

With that said, I'd love to tell Dr. Lisse that these commercial interests are also critical. In Nigeria, the govt is planning to declare telecommunications infrastructure as a national critical asset such that whosoever vandalizes any telecommunications infrastructure is liable to be jailed just like we have done for petroleum pipelines. I give you an instance, if the network of a large bank like first bank of Nigeria is compromised, hundreds of thousands of peasants would be unable to get access to cash. This would affect trade, when trade is affected, people suffer. Like Claude Essomba wrote: Critical infrastructure to me means any related ICT infrastructure supporting african countries critical business that if affected could have a large impact to the level that nothing will work. ie Airport , TV, Banks , Telecommunication , Applications for custom or application for salaries payments. 

I hope this is explanatory enough.

Kayode Yussuf 
 
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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2012 23:55:25 +0000
From: Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest, Vol 68, Issue 92
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Does it mean that all Africa is Sophia?
I beg to cross the line by asking you to have a pinch of respect to others since none of us is perfect. In addition, no one is superiorly unusual.
Lets respect others.

Let us not display our bunckrapsy by single word response either. Or is it a Digital mind of Yes=1 or No=0? Lets share wisdom and maturity here please..
Yassin
Waiting for a Digital response..


>From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.

Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na> wrote:

s/nyou/now/

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On Oct 23, 2012, at 17:59, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.NA> wrote:

> Sophia, Sophia, nyou you are supporting your emails by your own articles?
> 
> el
> 
> On 2012-10-23 16:12 , Gideon wrote:
>> Hi Pierre and all,
>> 
>> I think this article is a good addition to what you are looking
>> for ; -
>> 
>> * *Emerging Cyber-Security Threats and Implications for the
>> Private Sector* *
>> http://www.circleid.com/posts/20121013_emerging_cybersecurity_threats_and_implications_for_private_sector/
>> 
>> Gideon Rop,
>> DotConnectAfrica.
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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:11:09 +0000
From: Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving gradually towards
	cyber war
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Please just ignore Digital Answers like (nonense or worse)
It shows a degree of respect one has or has not.
Lets move on please..
Yassin

>From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.

Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:

On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 9:21 PM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na> wrote:
Nonsense.

Is it ever possible for you to make a point without words as similar as above ;)

It may be critical to the income of wannabe cyber security advisers, but
*NONE* of his is critical infrastructure. These are plain business
interests which can be protected by commercial means.

el


On 2012-10-23 08:26 , Claude Essomba wrote:
> Great I am glad we are moving forward with our discussion. Critical
> infrastructure to me means  any related ICT infrastructure supporting
> african countries critical business that if affected could have a large
> impact to the level that nothing will work. ie Airport , TV, Banks ,
> Telecommunication , Applications for custom or application for salaries
> payments. In fact only risks analysis will help to identify such
> infrastructure. That is why vulnerability assessment and Penetration
> testing services are important to minimise the risks related to the
> critical indentified infrastructure.
>
> Regards
>
> *CLAUDE VINCENT DE PAUL ESSOMBA*


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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:13:52 +0000
From: Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving gradually towards
	cyber war
To: Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr>, africann at afrinic.net
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Please just ignore it. Its like stopping wind from blowing. Please respect Dr for whatever he contributes.
Yassun


>From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.

Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr> wrote:

My God!

"Dr Eberhard W Lisse", With all respects a human being can provide you, your contributions in general do not deserve comments!
I doubt that you have a PhD ... Or maybe you are an emeritus professor ... Or you have a serious personal problem with the world in which you live.
Mr. Dr / Prof / Whatever, excuse me, I am obliged to tell you what I think.
I advise you to apply for a capacity building or advanced training program in some relevant IT/ICT/Internet fields. Or you may return to school. It is never late.

May Allah forgive me if I wrong.

Regards
 
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Pierre Lotis NANKEP
IT Engineer / ANTIC
Web : http://www.antic.cm
Email (Pro) : pierre.nankep at antic.cm
GSM : +237 77 66 10 07
De : Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na>
À : africann at afrinic.net 
Envoyé le : Mardi 23 octobre 2012 21h21
Objet : Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving gradually towards cyber war

Nonsense.

It may be critical to the income of wannabe cyber security advisers, but
*NONE* of his is critical infrastructure. These are plain business
interests which can be protected by commercial means.

el


On 2012-10-23 08:26 , Claude Essomba wrote:
> Great I am glad we are moving forward with our discussion. Critical
> infrastructure to me means  any related ICT infrastructure supporting
> african countries critical business that if affected could have a large
> impact to the level that nothing will work. ie Airport , TV, Banks ,
> Telecommunication , Applications for custom or application for salaries
> payments. In fact only risks analysis will help to identify such
> infrastructure. That is why vulnerability assessment and Penetration
> testing services are important to minimise the risks related to the
> critical indentified infrastructure.
>  
> Regards
>  
> *CLAUDE VINCENT DE PAUL ESSOMBA*


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Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 00:25:38 +0000
From: Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving gradually towards
	cyber war
To: africann at afrinic.net, Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr>
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Hello all
I think that the sun is raising now;-)

An individual should not respond digitally to others by just saying, "Nonsense" or "crap" or "waste of space" as a response to an opinion. 
As much as I respect opinions I consider such Digital responses not respectful unless one does not respect others due to their exhalted mental position? Or dictatorial tendencies?
Please let us respect each other - no arrogance please...


>From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.

Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:

Please no curses no personal attacks....no swearing to GOD. 

Lets make arguments on ideas as those are better

On Oct 23, 2012, at 21:15, Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr> wrote:

My God!

"Dr Eberhard W Lisse", With all respects a human being can provide you, your contributions in general do not deserve comments!
I doubt that you have a PhD ... Or maybe you are an emeritus professor ... Or you have a serious personal problem with the world in which you live.
Mr. Dr / Prof / Whatever, excuse me, I am obliged to tell you what I think.
I advise you to apply for a capacity building or advanced training program in some relevant IT/ICT/Internet fields. Or you may return to school. It is never late.

May Allah forgive me if I wrong.

Regards
 
--
Pierre Lotis NANKEP
IT Engineer / ANTIC
Web : http://www.antic.cm
Email (Pro) : pierre.nankep at antic.cm
GSM : +237 77 66 10 07
De : Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na>
À : africann at afrinic.net 
Envoyé le : Mardi 23 octobre 2012 21h21
Objet : Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] The world is moving gradually towards cyber war

Nonsense.

It may be critical to the income of wannabe cyber security advisers, but
*NONE* of his is critical infrastructure. These are plain business
interests which can be protected by commercial means.

el


On 2012-10-23 08:26 , Claude Essomba wrote:
> Great I am glad we are moving forward with our discussion. Critical
> infrastructure to me means  any related ICT infrastructure supporting
> african countries critical business that if affected could have a large
> impact to the level that nothing will work. ie Airport , TV, Banks ,
> Telecommunication , Applications for custom or application for salaries
> payments. In fact only risks analysis will help to identify such
> infrastructure. That is why vulnerability assessment and Penetration
> testing services are important to minimise the risks related to the
> critical indentified infrastructure.
>  
> Regards
>  
> *CLAUDE VINCENT DE PAUL ESSOMBA*


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