Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] It’s like that in life, there are always bad players and bad losers!

Dr Yassin Mshana ymshana2003 at gmail.com
Mon Oct 15 09:41:12 SAST 2012


To you sir on this? It is possible as I am not saying what you want me to
Say. Lets stop this and concentrate on developmental issues - please. The
size of English does not matter..
Keeping track of my trend of thoughts is good for accountability though...
Cheers
Yassin (ears tuned to Toronto!)

On 14 October 2012 20:20, Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:

> Dr Yassin,
>
> You obviously are not communicating so spare us the big English. The
> sequence 1-5 tells all. Just read...
>
> 1)
>
> On Oct 13, 2012, at 9:06, Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Lets be innovative and productive please.Lets keep talking but let us be
>> constructive
>>
>>
> 2)
>
> On 13 October 2012 10:51, Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:
>
>> ...
>>
>> Please tell us do you consider the URL that was posted containing
>> constructive information?
>>
>
> 3)
>
> On Oct 13, 2012, at 22:21, Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Why should I impose my judgement or understanding ?
>
>
> 4)
>
> Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:
>
>
> You conveniently evaded the issue.
>
> If you can't tell what is constructive please then spare us
>
>
> 5)
>
> On Oct 14, 2012, at 15:04, Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I was not asked to specifically evaluate anything.. by you or anybody.
> Afterall I respect peoples opinions and would not like to judge any because
> of that. In that case, please dont expect me to do so since diplomacy
> matters. I ll give my opinion where it can be effective.
> I m not in the business of shooting opinions down in public just because I
> dont agree with it nor will  I be forced to and do not have to apologise
> for that.
> I can see Toronto mtg teams are fully ready to move things forward to
> share a lot of discussions on issues that has taken place back home?
> Kind regards
> Yassin
>
> From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
>
>
>
> Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:
>
>
> You conveniently evaded the issue.
>
> You asked that member be constructive on the list. You are then asked to
> evaluate a specific link then you give plenty excuses, huh
>
> If you can't tell what is constructive please then spare us
>
> On Oct 13, 2012, at 22:21, Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Why should I impose my judgement or understanding ? That is where things
> go wrong due to rushing to conclusions and forgetting the protocol or
> diplomacy. No one is superior when it comes to global issues...all go by
> concensus!
>
> In that case, no one should expect quick conclusions from me unless there
> is immediate danger that I m sure of.....such as non inclusiveness I
> shouted about a few weeks ago.
>
> When one cries for a razor blade to play with what do you do? And when
> will they know that its dangerous but not fatal if you intervene by denying
> them?
> Small cuts and scars are better than a smooth skin...they show that one
> has learnt something...sounds cruel but hey! When will one learn?
>
> Yassin
>
> From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
>
>
>
> Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:
>
>
> You asked that we are constructive so I inquired if you could see when
> something is constructive eg the link posted
>
> Your answer says you can't?
>
> On Oct 13, 2012, at 12:06, Dr Yassin Mshana <ymshana2003 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Well well, I am not the universal Judge. You do that for for us please...?
> Construction and destruction are all actions that need effort and time -
> that is nature.
>
> To me, I respect everything said or written since we have different
> opinions and reasoning methods. One can not stop one from writing about
> tasteless things....we have no choice but just to read it first since they
> don't carry a warning like Films which advice 'Parental Guidance' or
> 'Strong Language' .
>
> Newspaper carries stories some bad some taste  good - you cant choose
> which one to read .... .
>
> Have a good weekend Oga Nii :-))
>
> Yassin
>
> On 13 October 2012 10:51, Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:
>
>> ...may be your African culture has "long discussions or misunderstanding
>> " and "gossiping and long debates " however that's not mine
>>
>> Please tell us do you consider the URL that was posted containing
>> constructive information? Was that a shout from the top of the hill
>>
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 9:06, Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Lets be innovative and productive please.
>>
>> I cant blame anyone since it is in our African culture - long discussions
>> or misunderstanding can take generations long. We have everything including
>> good weather therefore gossiping and long debates which keep being repeated
>> by a new comer is common.
>> Lets keep talking but let us be constructive.
>> If you dont like something leave it or weed it off your patch!! Dont go
>> on shouting from top of the hill (this List)
>> Good day.
>> Yassin
>>
>>
>> From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Thats *not* how it goes!
>>
>> The Internet has been governed in Africa since the beginning and not by
>> storm as you suggest or wish
>>
>> On Oct 13, 2012, at 6:45, Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr> wrote:
>>
>> "Who sows the wind, reaps the storm."
>> "Qui sème le vent, récolte la tempête." (French)
>>
>> So goes the Internet Governance in Africa.
>>
>> Regards.
>>
>> --
>> Pierre Lotis NANKEP
>> IT Engineer / ANTIC
>> Web : http://www.antic.cm
>> Email (Pro) : pierre.nankep at antic.cm
>> GSM : +237 77 66 10 07
>>   ------------------------------
>> *De :* Dandjinou Pierre <pdandjinou at gmail.com>
>> *À :* "africann at afrinic.net" <africann at afrinic.net>
>> *Cc :* attoumani karim <attoukarim at yahoo.fr>
>> *Envoyé le :* Samedi 13 octobre 2012 6h28
>> *Objet :* Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] It’s like that in life, there are
>> always bad players and bad losers!
>>
>> Seems This list is getting Kafkaian!!
>>
>> Pierre D
>>
>> On Friday, October 12, 2012, Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:
>> > I saw 9 posts at the link. All are against something or somebody and 4
>> are complaining about conflict of interest
>> >
>> > Where is support for something else? May be those are somewhere else
>> > Its quite unusual and that raises questions
>> > On Oct 12, 2012, at 19:01, Lerato <lerato.ma at yahoo.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > McTim
>> > Here is the correspondence site of DCA with ICANN along various other
>> letters.
>> >
>> http://www.dotconnectafrica.org/icann-related-2/icann-outreach-and-participation/letters-to-icann/
>> >
>> > As far as Mr. Karim, and your reactions to the two links you posted
>> below, I  believe Thomas has already responded to you quite well, on the
>> same post you did on The Domain site.  I have re-posted his reply to you
>> below.
>> >
>> > Dear Karim Attoumani Mohamed,
>> > Your comments are quite irrelevant to the issue even as you have also
>> displayed unwarranted pettiness in your attitude.
>> > First, DCA's letter to ICANN is about Conflict of Interest. If
>> according to your comments,  you already "agree that we must avoid
>> conflicts of interest", then what is your problem with DCA's letter to
>> ICANN?
>> > Your attempt to conflate the issue and relate it to the applied-for
>> string name is quite diversionary and aimed entirely at mischief-making in
>> the pursuit of an unknown agenda. Your thinking that the 'dotAfrica' string
>> and '.Africa' string are different gTLD names is borne out of wholesale
>> ignorance.
>> >
>> > Moreover, you seem to be calling the results of the application for the
>> gTLD strings even though you are not an expert on string similarity. Are
>> you a member of the ICANN Evaluation Panel or do you have friends in the
>> panel that have indicated to you secretly that they would favour your
>> preferred applicant?
>> >
>>
>> --
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>> Dakar 221 77 639 30 41
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>>
>>
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