[***SPAM***] [AfrICANN-discuss] Fwd: [AfrICANN-44] Africa Strategic plan

Dr Yassin Mshana ymshana2003 at gmail.com
Wed Jul 25 23:37:08 SAST 2012


Dear Moderator for Africann et al,

Please see email below and below it the content of the communication in
question  that was not shared by the Group.

I do not expect that there is a possibility of 'blocking' any of us in this
list - or there is?

Please Moderator will you clarify this?

Kind regards

Yassin

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: Sophia Bekele <sophiabekele at yahoo.com>
Date: 25 July 2012 20:38
Subject: Fw: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fwd: [AfrICANN-44] Africa Strategic plan
To: "Dr. Yassin Mshana" <ymshana2003 at gmail.com>


FYI. Dr,. Yassin
I have sent this email below and some people say they did not receive in
their inbox, including me.
A similar posting I sent last month was not also posted.
Could you please help me send this to the group, since it seem like my
emails have been blocked.
Thanks you very much.

****
With best wishes,
*Sophia *----- Forwarded Message -----

*From:* Sophia Bekele <sophiabekele at yahoo.com>
*To:* "africann at afrinic.net" <africann at afrinic.net>
*Cc:* Steve Crocker <steve at shinkuro.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 25, 2012 1:04 PM
*Subject:* Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fwd: [AfrICANN-44] Africa Strategic plan

Dear All-

It is known now the whole minutes were cooked after the fact, people's
complaint and after everyone voiced their opinion on lack of information
and exclusion from the meetings.   This is not correct at all.

re: Pierre's comment:


*I then hope the organizers of the 'African meetings at ICANN 44 in Prague
will provide minutes and other detailed information. Btw, *
a special list was set up during the conference and I am copying this to
it.   I can only state that African participants to Icann were invited to a
meeting with Icann Board and the incoming CEO.


 Well, who were organizers of an ICANN 44 in Prague specifically?   Myself
and my delegation were there and we were not invited.  Can we at least know
who the organizer's names and or affiliation?  Were they ICANN employees or
an adhoc group?  Or was it the AU and or UNECA?   If from the meetings
minutes the organizer’s were UNECA and AU, then Makane has seen me well
before the meeting.   Why should there have been a special list just for
this meeting?  Would the regular AfriICANN list not suffice for a
transparent and inclusive invitation like any other meetings of
AfriICANN/AFRALO?  Let us then have a disclosure of the special list of
names that was said to have been drafted by the organizers, as they have
selected  (not elected) their friends again in this process.
If the political organizations want their own representatives, they can
assign one directly to ICANN, however to gather around in the name of ICANN
and Africa and to select a few people, who nominally are  friends (or
cronies), on behalf of Africans to represent us Africans, using ICANN
pedestal in an exclusive list of invitees is wrong, very wrong.  What does
this mean: anyone operating outside this strategic plan developed by the
self-selected/self-appointed group will not be part of ICANN and have its voice
represented at ICANN?   This will not be acceptable.   And does ICANN’s
validation of this self-appointed group sponsored by the political
organizations mean that we as individuals are excluded from ICANN?  If this
is the case it is a formula for disenfranchisement within the
generally-accepted multi-stakeholder model.
We Africans on this list should not leave any stone unturned to make sure
that any processes that are handled by Africans is transparent and not
designed to serve the vested interest of a few people, in particular like,
 Dr.Yassin warned when political organizations are involved.

Therefore, my views and objection on the nomination process to represent
Africa remains the same like with many others on this list, which I guess
is the old “AfriIcann” list.  Until the callers for Africa be it AU and
UNECA know how to organize themselves properly and inclusively, my formal
interjection and objection remains, and will continue based on principles.

Let me remind everyone that ICANN is a place we come because we feel free
to express our opinions and expect that we would be heard and we will
protect that at any cost.   If I have to also make aware,  in the new
multistakeholder environment at ICANN, community and public interest is
transferable and equally treated to an individual as much as a community,
which the later has been exploited so far as a platform to gain advantage.
To illustrate Sophia Bekele is a community, a public interest and also an
individual and not necessarily in the order!

Finally, I believe that it is important for us to make a clean break from
the existing practice of a self-appointed, self-endorsing group always
forcing down ideas down the throat of the members of a consultative group.
This defeats the objectives of multi-stakeholder consensus.

I hope that I have made my point on the need for us to be always democratic
and stop practicing dictatorship.


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*From:* Dr Yassin Mshana <ymshana2003 at gmail.com>
*To:* africann at afrinic.net
*Cc:* Steve Crocker <steve at shinkuro.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, July 25, 2012 12:50 PM
*Subject:* [***SPAM***] Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Fwd: [AfrICANN-44] Africa
Strategic plan

Hello Pierre,

Thank you for this communication and Minute of The Meeting. Much
appreciated.

I am pleased to see that members of GAC from Africa were present
(I recognize one).

The issue is that, although the actions taken was right, why not circulate
the Minutes widely since this <africann at afrinic.net> includes a large
proportion of Africans? I have not heard a complaint that this list
excluded anyone so far....

All in all, Why wasn't this sideline at ICANN-44 activity not communicated
widely - before, during and after the event? It is history now...

My suggestion is to engage a Reverse Gear to this whole thing and let the
CEO of ICANN know we are doing so. No harm doing that since a round of
consultations need to take place - for inclusive purposes. In that case,
ICANN-Toronto will not be the opportune time and place to deal with this.
If ICANN has budgeted for this activity - not bad eh? They can hold fire
until another ICANN meeting. That is a lesson we have learned - or is there
a rush for this which would mislead ICANN and everybody concerned?

I am sorry to have to suggest a STOP to this for the moment -  since it is
better to get things in a right from the beginning.

I have taken the liberty to copy this to Steve Crocker for his attention
please - since he ought to know about the suggestion.

Kind regards

Yassin

On 25 July 2012 11:42, Dandjinou Pierre <pdandjinou at gmail.com> wrote:

All,
For your information,these  minutes were prepared and circulated on the
AfrICANN 44 list by Makane Faye at the end of the meeting with ICANN Board

The subsequent threads below provide further details .

I am sharing them here  for further clarification and hope we Shall now
move on and collectively deliver

Regards
Pierre

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: *Makane Faye* <mfaye at uneca.org>
Date: Thu, Jun 28, 2012 at 7:11 AM
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-44] Africa Strategic plan
To: Mary Uduma <mnuduma at yahoo.com>, AfrICANN-44 Participant List <
africann-44 at afrinic.net>
Cc: "africa at gac.icann.org" <africa at gac.icann.org>, "
afgwg-discuss at afrinic.net" <afgwg-discuss at afrinic.net>, Steve Crocker <
steve at shinkuro.com>, Makane Faye <faymakane at gmail.com>, Jamie Hedlund <
jamie.hedlund at icann.org>


Dear Manal, Mary, Moktar and other Colleagues,

I wish to congratulate Alice for proposing a bottom up approach, which
should be adopted by the IGFs which have not yet started their process. In
this connection, I would like to echoe Moktar's proposal to strengthen the
Committee which was established yesterday to depart from a Committee of 4
to a Committee of 7 taking into account representatives from the remaining
3 regions.

In this regard, I propose that Ms Palesa Legose of the Department of
Communication in South Africa which is the Vice-Chair of the African
Ministerial ICT Conference represents the Southern African sub-region.

East African stakeholders are requested to consult among themselves and
propose 1 member to the Committee; the Central African Group is also
required to follow the same process.

I believe if we have Palesa and one representative each from East and
Central Africa, the list of Committee members could be closed. May I take
this opportunity to submit the minutes of yesterday's meeting.

Best regards,


Mary Uduma <mnuduma at yahoo.com> wrote:

 Dear All,
I wish to join in thanking Steve and his team for the productive meeting
held today.  The AF Community in ICANN has been encouraged by your show of
support and commitment towards the different topics discussed today. Thank
you so much. We look forward to working with the Board in actualissing the
resolutions reached.

Alice, the East Africa IGF  is a good starting point.  I have taken a cue
from you to suggest to the coordinator of West Africa IGF to include such
discussions at the forthcoming WAIGF in Sierra Leone 2 - 4 July. I have
received a positive response urging me to be present for the discussion.

I wish to encourage AF community from West Africa to endeavor to attend the
WAIGF meeting  and make contributions to enrich the discussion. Check out
www,waigf.org to register.

ICANN is a strong partner of  the event, and we shall not miss the
opportunity to reach out to our people. I hope ICANN is sending a strong
representation to the meeting.

Mary.
.ng



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*From:* "alice at apc.org" <alice at apc.org>
*To:* africa at gac.icann.org; afgwg-discuss at afrinic.net;
africann-44 at afrinic.net; africa at gac.icann.org; Jamie Hedlund <
jamie.hedlund at icann.org>
*Cc:* Steve Crocker <steve at shinkuro.com>
*Sent:* Wednesday, June 27, 2012 5:02 PM

*Subject:* [AfrICANN-44] Africa Strategic plan

Dear Colleagues,

We wish to thank Steve and other members of the board  for making the time
to meet with African stakeholders this morning. It was a very productive
meeting.

We want to take this opportunity to again welcome  the new CEO Fadi
Chehadé and are grateful for your strong support and look forward to
working with you to increase Africa's participation and contribution to
ICANN.

We wish to inform you that the East Africa region plans to hold the
regional IGF, the East Africa IGF in July 17 and 18th and before then each
EA country will hold their own national IGF. The Kenya one will take place
on 6th July in Nairobi.

As you will note from the programme  (www.eaigf.or.ke) we have a session
during the EAIGF that speaks to our engagement with ICANN by way of
introduction of what ICANN is, what it does and on new gTLDs.

We intend to begin discussions on the proposed Africa strategic plan
during this meeting to ensure that we have multi-stakeholder consultation
on identifying the current challenges, proposing possible solutions and
exploring how we wish to participate and contribute to the ICANN process.

We look forward to sharing the outcome of the forum with you all. We hope
that the inputs will form a part of the ICANN's Strategic plan under
development.

Thank you and kind regards

Alice Munyua
Kenya



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