[AfrICANN-discuss] Is it relevant to know who is who on the AfrICANN list?

Sun Dec 30 22:23:05 UTC 2012

Hmm, subtlety seems to escape you.

el

Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini

On Dec 31, 2012, at 0:12, Ben Akoh <me at benakoh.com> wrote:

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> Sent from my iPhone
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> On 2012-12-30, at 3:32 PM, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na> wrote:
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>> Great and Lerato Ma can choose who she wants on the list...
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> If they (all of them) resubscribe and agree to abide by the etiquettes. 
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>> What's wrong with requiring not to use a sock puppet and not to lie?
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> Nothing's wrong. Great suggestion for inclusion in the new etiquette. 
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>> And what is wrong with exposing this?
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> Nothing's wrong. This has been exposed already. There is a need to move on. The suggestions in my previous email is one way of going forward. Feel free to suggest alternatives. 
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>> el
>> 
>> Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
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>> On Dec 30, 2012, at 23:18, Ben Akoh <me at benakoh.com> wrote:
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>>> The following steps may be required to bring sanity to this list:
>>> 
>>> 1. Unsubscribe everyone. 
>>> 2. Create a list etiquette (etiquette should contain dos and don'ts, including respect for others. I can volunteer to develop this and anyone that may be interested in doing so. List purpose and goals that Adiel suggested should be reiterated). 
>>> 3. Create a new list with the same address. 
>>> 4. Send etiquette to emails harvested from step 1. 
>>> 6. Interested persons wanting to participate in wholesome, progressive discussions should subscribe to new list created in step 3. 
>>> 
>>> I have studied several platforms/strategies/processes for public policy dialogue that lead towards substantive policy change. Online discussions is one useful and effective but not the only way. A toolkit describing other ways can be downloaded from here: http://www.iisd.org/publications/pub.aspx?pno=1619
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>>> If your response to my comments above would not profit anyone else, please direct it at me only. Save Africa's meager bandwidth. 
>>> 
>>> Best wishes!
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>> On 2012-12-30, at 2:50 PM, Adiel Akplogan <adiel at afrinic.net> wrote:
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>>>> Hello Pierre,
>>>> 
>>>> Allow me to make few comments on this poll. What is it purpose? 
>>>> Who is/is_not entitle to take the poll? How do you control that? 
>>>> For it to have the weight that you wish, it may has: 
>>>> 
>>>> 1 - not to be anonymous - this list being an open forum of 
>>>>     discussion created specially with that intend. People 
>>>>     expressing opinion on how the list must be run should 
>>>>     be known and be able to transparently display their views.
>>>> 2 - to be taken only by people who have been on the list and/or 
>>>>     active on it over the past minimum 2 years. (If I want the 
>>>>     result of the poll to go into a particular direction what 
>>>>     prevent me to request all my family, my dogs, my cats, 
>>>>     neighbours to take the poll and say what I want them to say?.
>>>> 
>>>> Trying to meet the above 2 points alone will make you quickly 
>>>> realise that the poll by itself is inappropriate to answer the 
>>>> question you are asking … 
>>>> 
>>>> On a more general note, has it happened to any of you who are 
>>>> vehemently questioning the expertise of people on the list and 
>>>> trowing stones all over to ask yourself what is the genesis of 
>>>> this list? What was it purpose and objective? Who came up with 
>>>> the idea and to achieve what? I think trying to understand that 
>>>> a lone would have cut 90% of this never-ending loop of the debate 
>>>> that is going on for a while now.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks.
>>>> 
>>>> - a.
>>>> On 2012-12-30, at 11:09 AM, Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Poll on the question : Is it relevant to know who is who on the AfrICANN list?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Please click to express your own opinion... or http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/SKFJXJN
>>>>> 
>>>>> Live result by December 30, 2012 (08:30 am GMT) :
>>>>> 
>>>>> Number of voters : 22 (+4)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Origin of voters :
>>>>> 1. Cameroon (41.202.205.250)
>>>>> 2. Gambia (212.60.65.174)
>>>>> 3. USA - New York - Holtsville (75.37.44.104)
>>>>> 4. Japan (115.162.51.10)
>>>>> 5. Malawi (41.78.59.20)
>>>>> 6. Comoros (197.255.232.2)
>>>>> 7. Kenya (197.176.11.64)
>>>>> 8. Mauritius (197.225.46.34)
>>>>> 9. United Kingdom (93.186.23.82)
>>>>> 10. South Africa (41.244.138.47)
>>>>> 11. Togo (41.207.184.25)
>>>>> 12. Cameroon (41.202.201.63)
>>>>> 13. United Kingdom (93.186.31.85)
>>>>> 14. Togo (41.207.171.105)
>>>>> 15. Germany (78.41.227.84)
>>>>> 16. Senegal (41.82.142.219)
>>>>> 17. Uganda (41.202.233.177)
>>>>> 18. Cameroon (195.24.206.125)
>>>>> 19. Nigeria (41.220.69.43) 
>>>>> 20. Mauritius (197.225.59.10) 
>>>>> 21. Switzerland (178.193.208.123)
>>>>> 22. Nigeria (41.71.162.180)
>>>>>   
>>>>> Please click to express your own opinion... or http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/SKFJXJN
>>>>> 
>>>>> The vote will end by December 31, 2012, at 23H GMT. Only 2 days left.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks to those who already voted... The results will be published on January 1rst, 2013.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Let us be guided by ethics...
>>>>> 
>>>>> Salam.
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