[AfrICANN-discuss] Ombudsman asks DCA to simmer down after .africa
conflict of interest complaint
Gideon
gideonrop at gmail.com
Fri Dec 21 07:58:37 SAST 2012
You can spin this story as much as you like, but those of us who don't
work for either side can easily see where the truth lies.
Real funny you're not working for your the other side??. That is almost
laughable Were you hoping there is only your spin machine that is oiled?
There is always two sides to a story and you wish only your she would be
heard. That is not the truth as you want it to be and will never be.
I would suggest that you take the Ombudsman’s advise and stop further
rhetoric as DCA will always respond to defend itself. Trust me no one will
count that against DCA.
Gideon Rop,
DotConnectAfrica.
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> of interest complaint (McTim)
> 3. Re: Ombudsman asks DCA to simmer down after .africa conflict
> of interest complaint (Dr Yassin Mshana)
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> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 20:38:46 +0200
> From: Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.NA>
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> He wants to be her sockpuppy. Even if he's unreal.
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> On 2012-12-20 20:15 , Nigel Roberts wrote:> Gideon:
> >
> > Are you a real person?
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> > On 20/12/12 17:29, Gideon wrote:
> >> Patience is a virtue.
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> >> Gideon Rop,
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> From: McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Ombudsman asks DCA to simmer down
> after .africa conflict of interest complaint
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> On Thu, Dec 20, 2012 at 12:18 PM, Gideon <gideonrop at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I read his report, it clearly addresses both both parties.
> >
> > ICANN Ombudsman says “no current conflict of interest on .africa” instead
> > rambled much on Intemperate communications on bidders
> >
> >
> >
> http://domainnewsafrica.com/icann-ombudsman-says-no-current-conflict-of-interest-on-africa-instead-rambled-much-on-intemperate-communications-on-bidders/
>
> Your spin machine (including the domainnnewsafrica team) are really
> incredible:
>
> “ we are indeed troubled by the fact that Mr. Mike Silber would use
> his presence on the ICANN Board of Directors to act deliberately as to
> pose an unwarranted risk to DCA’s application whilst trying to take
> decisions that would have a favorable outcome for the competing
> application submitted by UniForum.”
>
> Again this quote is stating a "fact" that is not in evidence, in other
> words it's a figment of someone's imagination.
>
> This blogger is deeply clueless when he says:
>
> "So one then would wonder what is the interest of Silber to now want
> to serve on a committee that decides on New gTLDs?"
>
> Well, if I were an ICANN Board Member and I wasn't happy that a
> program went ahead when I didn't think it was ready, I would surely
> volunteer to sit on the committee that oversaw it's implementation, so
> that I could make sure it was implemented in the best way possible!
>
> You can spin this story as much as you like, but those of us who don't
> work for either side can easily see where the truth lies.
>
> If you could point to one example where the Uniforum folks have been
> disrespectful, I would very much like to see that!
>
> --
> Cheers,
>
> McTim
> "A name indicates what we seek. An address indicates where it is. A
> route indicates how we get there." Jon Postel
>
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 22:27:51 +0000
> From: Dr Yassin Mshana <ymshana2003 at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Ombudsman asks DCA to simmer down
> after .africa conflict of interest complaint
> To: africann at afrinic.net
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> All in all, I believe that "It is easier to be simple" since the Truth can
> not be fabricated.
>
> Declaration of no COI is the best way for anyone in a respected authority
> such as ICANN. To me, what is going on is the best way forward.
>
> Why don't we Africans do that - to start with, I have declared my support
> to the Principle behind DCA long ago before the .africa gTLD saga was
> fabricated to become a 'talk of the town'. That is clear and will not
> change unless the 'principle' behind it is changed from what it has been
> during the past years.
>
> The DCA Trust is not only for .africa gTLD Application as it seems to be
> deemed - there have been other undertakings by DCA that are being
> overlooked.
>
> Well done one and all
>
> Seasons Greetings
>
> Yassin
>
> On 20 December 2012 17:18, Gideon <gideonrop at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > I read his report, it clearly addresses both both parties.
> >
> > ICANN Ombudsman says “no current conflict of interest on .africaâ€
> instead
> > rambled much on Intemperate communications on bidders
> >
> >
> >
> http://domainnewsafrica.com/icann-ombudsman-says-no-current-conflict-of-interest-on-africa-instead-rambled-much-on-intemperate-communications-on-bidders/
> >
> > Gideon Rop,
> > DotConnectAfrica
> >
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> >> 2. Ombudsman asks DCA to simmer down after .africa conflict of
> >> interest complaint (Vika Mpisane)
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> >> Date: Thu, 20 Dec 2012 12:05:27 +0300
> >> From: Gideon <gideonrop at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Two ICANN directors update their conflicts
> >> profile after .africa complaint
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> >> Update on Ombudsman's activities on the .africa Conflict of Interest.
> >> Two ICANN directors update their conflicts profile after .africa
> >> complaint<
> >>
> http://domainincite.com/11378-two-icann-directors-update-their-conflicts-profile-after-africa-complaint
> >> >
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://domainincite.com/11378-two-icann-directors-update-their-conflicts-profile-after-africa-complaint
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> >> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Ombudsman asks DCA to simmer down after
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> From: Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>
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> On Dec 21, 2012, at 1:27 AM, Dr Yassin Mshana <ymshana2003 at gmail.com
> <mailto:ymshana2003 at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> All in all, I believe that "It is easier to be simple" since the Truth can
> not be fabricated.
>
> Do you agree that DCA wronged by fabricating a non existent community
> member on this list for a few years. ??
>
>
> Declaration of no COI is the best way for anyone in a respected authority
> such as ICANN. To me, what is going on is the best way forward.
>
> Why don't we Africans do that - to start with, I have declared my support
> to the Principle behind DCA long ago before the .africa gTLD saga was
> fabricated to become a 'talk of the town'. That is clear and will not
> change unless the 'principle' behind it is changed from what it has been
> during the past years.
>
> I think the principle changed doctor. In a quest to succeed the truth was
> bent, the integrity and credibility of some of the team members was found
> to be wanting and general ethical behavior was simply non existent. Yes
> you have tried your best to be straight and honest but surely that's a
> tough job when you surround yourself with the team you are supporting right
> now.
>
>
> The DCA Trust is not only for .africa gTLD Application as it seems to be
> deemed - there have been other undertakings by DCA that are being
> overlooked.
>
> Please share some of these good deeds. The community would genuinely like
> to know and should know.
>
> regards
> BN
>
>
> Well done one and all
>
> Seasons Greetings
>
> Yassin
>
> On 20 December 2012 17:18, Gideon <gideonrop at gmail.com<mailto:
> gideonrop at gmail.com>> wrote:
>
> I read his report, it clearly addresses both both parties.
>
> ICANN Ombudsman says “no current conflict of interest on .africa” instead
> rambled much on Intemperate communications on bidders
>
>
> http://domainnewsafrica.com/icann-ombudsman-says-no-current-conflict-of-interest-on-africa-instead-rambled-much-on-intemperate-communications-on-bidders/
>
> Gideon Rop,
> DotConnectAfrica
>
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> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] Two ICANN directors update their conflicts
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> Update on Ombudsman's activities on the .africa Conflict of Interest.
> Two ICANN directors update their conflicts profile after .africa
> complaint<
> http://domainincite.com/11378-two-icann-directors-update-their-conflicts-profile-after-africa-complaint
> >
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