[AfrICANN-discuss] Sophiagate

Dr Yassin Mshana ymshana2003 at gmail.com
Mon Dec 10 18:08:25 SAST 2012


Hello Badru?

Have I not said enough on this?

My impartiality is what I have had and that is what I believe in

Please respect my space by not trying to tie me to anything based or your
assumptions - this is not a matter of Political Parties - where one has to
chose how to vote.. Also why is it important to you (and the List as you
say) about polarizing my opinion in the future? It is not acceptable by me
- to be associated with Camps? Africa is Africa to me - I feel sorry for
thise who want to form Camps.

Lastly, I do not judge anyone so should I not be judged - I support good
causes and rightfulness.

Have a good one

Yassin
On 10 December 2012 02:47, Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com> wrote:

> Yassin
>
> Thanks for stating your position however I'm still curious do you agree
> that the list was wronged by the organization you have been strategically
> advising and you are thus no longer holding that position ??  or are you
> saying that you will not entertain discussion on the topic and still
> maintain your original view s per your mailing on the list.
>
> This is key for the listers to know since this is the measure we will take
> your future inputs on the list.
>
> either
>
> you maintain your position that DCA has been wronged by the list with the
> allegations of blocking people and thus need to use fake email addresses
>
> or
>
> The revelations have also dented your confidence in your organization and
> you do not wish to publicly defend or represent them on this list.
>
> It is important to clear this since the allegation of blocking is very
> strong and it is pointed to an organization I'm associated with.  All the
> evidence was shared by our list administrator sometime back and shared
> again a few days ago.
>
> i think we need clear this before we decide to quietly walk away as you
> seem to be doing.
>
> regards
>
> Badru
>
>
>
>
>  On Dec 9, 2012, at 8:46 PM, Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com>
>  wrote:
>
>  Africans.....
> I ve decided not to continue with this Debate and focus on way forward.
> Nothing like resigning comes to my thinking and will not sit on the fence
> either.
> I ll continue with with objectivity as I see it since there is no
> democracy in that.
> I wish to spend my energy with wisdom not by being pulled in or pushed
> forward.
> .
> That is my own opinion and should not be associated with anything else
> going on.
>
> Thank you kindly
>
> Yassin
>
> From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
>
>
>
> Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na> wrote:
>
>
> It's not about who offended whom, it about Ms Bekele using a
> false on line identity which may be a crime and then lying
> about it.
>
> Since she has submitted a bid for .AFRICA through DCA
> (www.dotconnectafrica.org) he conduct is substantial
> misbehavuiour in terms of RFC159 and she has to be masured
> by it.
>
> And, of course, by Google, so please boys and girls, keep
> making the Subject line "Sophiagate" and put the keywords in
> all the time...
>
> ...like I have been doing
>
> el
>
> On 2012-12-07 17:26 , Badru Ntege wrote:
> > Yassin
> >
> > The rest of the list might be wrong in your eyes.  However
> > please please accept that the list has also been wronged
> > and hood winked for quite some time.  The more you labour
> > on on issue which the perpetrator has confessed to you are
> > very quickly reducing our efforts to forgive and move on.
> >
> > As someone has pointed out earlier we have the general
> > community and about 4 members on this list.  when i look
> > at the posting it was 4 email addresses (kind of not sure
> > how many individuals ) discussing the issue on behalf of
> > DCA and the rest of the community either taking a neutral
> > position or taking the other side.
> >
> > I once again repeat it is time to call it a day and join
> > the masses and see how we build our future .africa on the
> > continent with our community and governments.
> >
> > Our trust and credibility in DCA has been badly dented and
> > you need to rebuild that.  All other listers might not be
> > perfect myself included but at least our integrity and
> > intent when it comes to list etiquette is clear.  Agree at
> > times the language seems to be harsh but not all have the
> > patience needed to handle the unique situation we have
> > here.
> >
> > I think you and Gideon should accept this position and
> > join the apology on behalf of your organizational leader.
> > In other corporate governance scenarios this would call
> > for the executive director to resign the position but if i
> > suggested that one could say I'm on a which hunt so I'm
> > not suggesting here just saying that other credible
> > organizations do just that.
> >
> > Regards
>
>
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