[AfrICANN-discuss] Sophiagate

Fri Dec 7 16:56:16 SAST 2012

Leratogate....

On Dec 7, 2012, at 14:18, Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.na> wrote:

> I alwasys wonder when people become defensive...
> 
> el
> 
> -- 
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> Sent from Dr. Lisse's iPhone 5
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> 
> On Dec 7, 2012, at 9:08, Nigel Roberts <nigel at channelisles.net> wrote:
> 
>> Nothing to do with you. The reference was to /'Lerato'/ voting.
>> 
>> It's clearly unacceptable for someome to pretend to be a different       person in order to promote the interests of a real person. I'm surprised and actually shocked that some people can't see that.
>> 
>> As has been pointed out, the consequences of that sort of behaviour can be significant.
>> See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sockpuppet_%28Internet%29
>> 
>> As an excuse "Lerato" said she thought emails sent under her real identity had been blocked. That sounds like an allegation of censorship to me. But she was never blocked from this list. From all evidence so far, it just looks like she at some time she just forgot which of her email addresses was subscribed and sent a message from the wrong one. All you have to do when you get such a bounce message is to resend your message with the right FROM: line to correspond with the email address that you signed up with.
>> 
>> Creating a completely fictitious persona in order to promote DCA's application on the list is misbehaving in my book. 
>> And the question now in my mind, is who /else/ knew of the true identity of 'Lerato Ma' at the time 'she' was promoting DCA's application for .AFRICA on the list.
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 07/12/2012 05:00, Seun Ojedeji wrote:
>>> 
>>> On Dec 7, 2012 5:55 AM, "Dr Eberhard W Lisse" <el at lisse.na> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Now we let false identities vote on themselves?
>>> >
>>> looks like you now apply this to anyone who makes a point against yours...me false identity....funny, good luck with that!
>>> > el
>>> >
>>> > Sent from Dr Lisse's iPad mini
>>> >
>>> > On Dec 7, 2012, at 6:41 AM, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> Well if there is call to vote on this, then I vote against.
>>> >> I see this as uncalled for! Badru makes constructive statements while in my opinion yours seem not to compare.
>>> >> Basically what this mean is that the lady has 2 email addresses subscribed on this list, how does that infringe on the rules (if there is one) of this list?.
>>> >> As a matter of fact, keeping the two emails will enable her know/confirm that her messages where indeed not blocked.
>>> >> @Ms Bekele I suggest you even sign up a third one as backup, just incase ;-)
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers!
>>> >>
>>> >> On Dec 6, 2012 10:09 PM, "Dr Eberhard W Lisse" <el at lisse.na> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Adiel,
>>> >>>
>>> >>> please remove, at the very least, the false online identity
>>> >>> lerato.ma at yahoo.com from the list, but preferably also Ms Bekele's
>>> >>> real address.  She has, as you have seen, admitted to using this
>>> >>> false online identity on this list.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> But as far as content goes, the below puts her allegation of having
>>> >>> been removed from the list for content into a totally different
>>> >>> light.
>>> >>>
>>> >>> el
>>> >>>
>>> >>>
>>> >>> On 2012-12-06 22:35 , Adiel Akplogan wrote:
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> > Begin forwarded message:
>>> >>> >
>>> >>> >> From: Nishal Goburdhan <nishal at afrinic.net>
>>> >>> >> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Help with .africa history
>>> >>> >> Date: 26 July, 2012 13:04:19 PM GMT+04:00
>>> >>> >> To: africann at afrinic.net
>>> >>> >> Reply-To: africann at afrinic.net
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> On Jul 26, 2012, at 1:47 AM, Dr Yassin Mshana wrote:
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >>> Dear Moderator,
>>> >>> >>>
>>> >>> >>> It seems that there might be something to do with posts from Ms
>>> >>> >>> Bekele.....  Why was the email below not seen by others?
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> (speaking for the list-admin)
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Hello,
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> This is an unmoderated list.  That means, that if you are a
>>> >>> >> subscriber to this list, and you wish to post an opinion, you are
>>> >>> >> able to, without restriction from the mailing list operators.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> To help reduce spam, we *do* however, restrict posting to list
>>> >>> >> members only.  That is - you *must* subscribe to the mailing list
>>> >>> >> first; this is typical for most mailing lists run nowadays, and
>>> >>> >> is considered Best Practice.  List members are identified by
>>> >>> >> their unique email addresses.  List membership is free, and open
>>> >>> >> to anyone.
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> I am unable to find any list member with the email address:
>>> >>> >> "sophiabekele at yahoo.com", which is the from-address in the
>>> >>> >> message you forwarded below.  The closest match that I found was:
>>> >>> >> "sophiabekele at gmail.com".
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Should you wish to post directly from the @yahoo.com address,
>>> >>> >> you'd first need to be "join" the mailing list as that user.
>>> >>> >> We're unfortunately, unable to verify if these are the same
>>> >>> >> people.  Instructions on how to join the list are available here:
>>> >>> >> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/africann (This is
>>> >>> >> the same URL that is automatically added to the bottom of every
>>> >>> >> message of this list).
>>> >>> >>
>>> >>> >> Hope that helps.
>>> >>>
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