[AfrICANN-discuss] .africa who is who?
Vika Mpisane
vika at zadna.org.za
Sun Dec 2 21:17:59 UTC 2012
Ok, point taken, Lerato/Sophia, about "unproudly SA".
But can you confirm you're indeed, Sophia? Or the email headers are just
wrong?
From: Lerato <lerato.ma at yahoo.com>
Reply-To: Lerato <lerato.ma at yahoo.com>, <africann at afrinic.net>
Date: Sunday 02 December 2012 10:49 PM
To: "africann at afrinic.net" <africann at afrinic.net>
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] .africa who is who?
Vika
Please read well before making comments- "Unproudly South African" was a
commentary by one of your own customers not me.
http://mybroadband.co.za/vb/showthread.php/224513-.co.za-Uniforum-down
Keep your intrigue going, according to Doc, Sophia is also Kenyan and some
many other countries..
--Lerato Ma
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> From: Vika Mpisane <vika at zadna.org.za>
> To: africann at afrinic.net
> Sent: Sunday, December 2, 2012 12:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] .africa who is who?
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> Well, Brian, Eberhard has regularly pointed out that this "Lerato Ma" is in
> fact Sophia Bekele much to the vehement denial of this "Lerato Ma". I like
> the fact that this "Lerato Ma" claims to be "unproudly South African". What I
> like most from the info you provided below is the last 2 lines that read:
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> And it seemed Eberhard was wrong when he constantly pointed out this "Lerato
> Ma" (who's very unproudly South African - if she ever were South African in
> the first place) is, in fact, Sophia Bekele. Now reading the header info below
> and finding the name "Sophia Bekele" leaves me with intrigue: why is Sophia
> Bekele (assuming the header info is not lying) hiding behind pseudonyms? Let
> alone the fake "South Africanness"?
>
> Regards,
>
> Vika Mpisane | Tel: +27 11 314 0077
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> From: Brian Munyao Longwe <blongwe at gmail.com>
> Reply-To: <africann at afrinic.net>
> Date: Sunday 02 December 2012 9:43 PM
> To: <africann at afrinic.net>
> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] .africa who is who?
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> It is interesting to note that all these messages purporting to be from
> someone called "Lerato Ma" have some very revealing information in the header
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> On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 9:19 PM, Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com> wrote:
>> Great as the guidebook works fine.
>>
>> You shared a link on how well you are winning and you got feedback which
>> showed an unfavorable score card for DCA
>>
>> Will DCA now stop disturbing the list about its application since we agree on
>> the guidebook process
>>
>> On Dec 2, 2012, at 17:03, Lerato <lerato.ma at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I am sure DCA can defend itself from any of the below rummers, insinuations,
>>> what you say counts or does not, which is already in the public domain. But
>>> if you think that DCA has all this staked up against it, and your bid is
>>> stronger, why ask DCA to withdraw, just let the system run its course right?
>>>
>>> -- Lerato Ma.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com>
>>>> To: Lerato <lerato.ma at yahoo.com>; "africann at afrinic.net"
>>>> <africann at afrinic.net>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2012 12:30 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] .africa the saga continues
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Well for the onlooker it seems you did not understand the guidebook.
>>>>
>>>> Yet you think you are winning. So far,
>>>>
>>>> - you have had to do a string substitution
>>>> - you have received several objections
>>>> - have not shown the 60% countries supporting your application
>>>> - AUC rejected endorsement of DCA
>>>> - UNECA is UN and not Africa thus does not count
>>>>
>>>> Frankly, indications are not looking good. Rumor has it that some letters
>>>> DCA wrote seeking endorsement claimed you were ICANN board members?
>>>>
>>>> Some have even questioned the authenticity of the AUC letter you claimed to
>>>> have in the press
>>>>
>>>> Talking of ethics please get ready as all these will play out publicly...
>>>>
>>>> If I were you I'll follow Badru's advise and eat humble pie
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 19:31, Lerato <lerato.ma at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> From your point of view, DCA always has a $185k misunderstanding of
>>>>> reading the guidebook, but keeps winning!
>>>>> http://www.itwebafrica.com/internet/334-africa/229830-the-185000-dotafrica
>>>>> -internet-domain-name-misunderstanding?
>>>>>
>>>>> --Lerato Ma
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com>
>>>>>> To: Lerato <lerato.ma at yahoo.com>; "africann at afrinic.net"
>>>>>> <africann at afrinic.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2012 10:26 AM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] .africa the saga continues
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What am telling you is that you did not read the guidebook (400 pages too
>>>>>> big for you) and therefore made grave mistakes and may have lost $185K :(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 14:24, Lerato <lerato.ma at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Doc,
>>>>>>> what Nii is telling you is pollution and ethics are outside the scope of
>>>>>>> the guidebook, the book once refereed to in this list as the Bible of
>>>>>>> New gTLDs.
>>>>>>> Perhaps if guidebook was really a Bible, meaning DCA would not have
>>>>>>> "failed to get government support".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --Lerato Ma
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Nii Narku Quaynor <quaynor at ghana.com>
>>>>>>> To: "africann at afrinic.net" <africann at afrinic.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, December 1, 2012 6:05 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] .africa the saga continues
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please follow the applicant guidebook process...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Dec 1, 2012, at 11:19, Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hello there...
>>>>>>> It seems that the discussion is becoming similar to what football fans
>>>>>>> do - arguing and castigating other teams. Unfortunately Africa is one
>>>>>>> team with players who are playing with the aim to each win a Goal for
>>>>>>> themselves.
>>>>>>> This .africa issue shows all of that...
>>>>>>> Can we be more professional and open please? DCA is not a personal
>>>>>>> undertaking nor do the ccTLD for .za.
>>>>>>> Let us wait for the outcome of the process at ICANN although ICANN
>>>>>>> process may have been polluted ??
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dr Eberhard W Lisse <el at lisse.NA> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Point is, they are not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Capable.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of anything. Other than whining.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And, I stated at the AFRALO-Africann meeting in Prague that it
>>>>>>> doesn't matter whether there are only 17 applications (and not 170
>>>>>>> or 1700) but that we need to make a success out of them.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Uniforum bid is indigenous, with their own software, which is
>>>>>>> tried and tested, run on their own infrastructure, which as tried
>>>>>>> and tested and thus has a cost advantage...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And as you and I have no personal interest in the matter, I myself
>>>>>>> even think, the bid is as necessary as a goiter, it is of course
>>>>>>> incumbent upon the entertaining Ms Bekelelelele to accuse. Which
>>>>>>> she in her many incarnations does to everyone not agreeing with her.
>>>>>>> Especially whenveracity is difficult to realign to reality.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> el
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2012-12-01 10:23 , Nii Narku Quaynor wrote:
>>>>>>>> > On Dec 1, 2012, at 6:24, Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com
>>>>>>>> wrote: >
>>>>>>>>> >> If I were DCA I would humbly withdraw from this race and join
>>>>>>>>> >> hands with the rest of the continent to see how we can make the
>>>>>>>>> >> most of the .africa resource.
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>> > Is DCA capable of this?
>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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