[AfrICANN-discuss] ITU to control Internet?

Thierry Sanzhie Bokally sanzhiet at gmail.com
Wed Aug 8 18:39:57 SAST 2012


Merci Victor pour ce point de vue clair et sans ambiguïté.

Je pense qu'en faisant des alliances avec le bloc qui dit "NON" et, en 
travaillant ensemble sur les arguments qui confortent la position, le 
combat ne sera pas vain.

Les USA s'opposent à ce qu'internet passe sous contrôle de l'ONU 	

Les Etats-Unis vont s'opposer à la révision d'un traité qui ferait 
passer internet sous le contrôle des Nations unies, a déclaré, mercredi 
1er août, le chef de la délégation américaine en charge de ce dossier.
Washington soumettra vendredi sa position formelle pour la réunion de 
l'Union internationale des télécommunications (UIT), une agence de 
l'ONU, qui doit avoir lieu en décembre, a déclaré Terry Kramer, 
l'émissaire nommé pour ces négociations.

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Le 08/08/2012 15:15, Aminou Ndala TITA a écrit :
> Good appreciation of events Victor. The writings are very clear on the 
> wall. Nobody wants the ITU to control the internet. But the big 
> question how do we fight against this threat from the ITU and its allies?
> /Aminou Ndala TITA
> Intellectual Property Consultant
> Deputy Secretary General ISOC Cameroom
> P.O Box 963
> Bamenda- NorthWest Region
> Cameroon
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> E-mail: aminou20022001 at yahoo.com
> ndala at isoc-cameroon.org
> /
> --- On *Wed, 8/8/12, Victor Ndonnang /<ndonnang at isoc-cameroon.org>/* 
> wrote:
>     From: Victor Ndonnang <ndonnang at isoc-cameroon.org>
>     Subject: RE: [AfrICANN-discuss] ITU to control Internet?
>     To: africann at afrinic.net
>     Date: Wednesday, August 8, 2012, 9:00 AM
>     Dear Nacer,
>     Thank you for bringing this topic to the "AfrICANN" mailing list.
>     Are you
>     part of any UN or ITU policies discussing mailing list? I guess no.
>     First of all I would like to answer your subject question: No, the
>     ITU is
>     not welcome to control the Internet. Why?
>     Simply because the ITU's policies development process is not open, not
>     transparent and not inclusive. Did you ever asked yourself where
>     the great
>     success of the Internet came from? Because of its open structure.
>     You don't
>     need the mandate of your country to participate in the IETF or
>     ICANN work
>     for example. The governance of the Internet is mainly technical
>     and we don't
>     need a voting organization to take care of it; we need a consensus
>     based
>     organization (like IETF hosted by ISOC,ICANN, W3C...) to do the
>     work. Let me
>     come back to your remarks and questions:
>     - We all agree that the Internet was born 100% US but today, It is
>     100%
>     global. Naturally, Its Governance has to be 100% global and
>     inclusive. The
>     ICANN which is an important part the Internet ecosystem today is
>     in eyes of
>     many not 100% global but is working to become so. The WSIS calls for a
>     multi-stakeholder governance of the Internet and I can affirm that
>     ICANN is
>     a model of a multi-stakeholder organization. I can agree that
>     ICANN need
>     some ameliorations but I don't think the ITU can do better.
>     - Basically a ccTLD have to be run for the interest of the local
>     Internet
>     Community and It is not always the case in many African Countries
>     and that
>     is why many of our countries are facing the problem of redelegation.
>     Delegation and Redelegation policies are discussed within the
>     ccNSO  and
>     implemented by ICANN as the contractor of the IANA function. From my
>     knowledge redelegation is not dictated by the US DoC.
>     - ICANN deal with domain names and not web content and I think any
>     web site
>     is subject to the law of the country where it is hosted.
>     Personally I cannot support the proposal of putting the Internet
>     under the
>     UN organization control. The Internet was built by engineers and
>     not by
>     politicians, and Its governance is technical by nature. Today the
>     Internet
>     Government is run with full participation of governments and I
>     don't think
>     we need a member state organization to lead the Internet. We all
>     know how
>     the UN works today and we can easily imagine how an UN's
>     organization can
>     run the Internet...We all want the Internet critical resources and
>     standards
>     to be managed with competence and excellence and not with
>     bureaucracy and
>     political balance.
>     Hope you will find my comments helpful.
>     Best regards,
>     Victor.
>     -----Message d'origine-----
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>     [mailto:africann-bounces at afrinic.net
>     </mc/compose?to=africann-bounces at afrinic.net>] De
>     la part de Adamou Nacer
>     Envoyé : mercredi 8 août 2012 09:59
>     À : africann at afrinic.net </mc/compose?to=africann at afrinic.net>
>     Objet : [AfrICANN-discuss] ITU to control Internet?
>     Hi all,
>     you have certainly already read this post [1] on the next ITU's WCIT
>     meeting by the end of this year. This week, this is certainly the
>     fifth
>     post I read on the subject and I am asking myself some questions.
>     So as
>     I am new on Internet Governance issues, I would finally look for
>     answers
>     from you:
>     - I saw strong opposal from US representatives arguing that the
>     current
>     governance model is working pretty well and don't need to be
>     change. I
>     am agreing with that, except on some points. For a country to have
>     its
>     ccTLD for exemple redelegated, we need approval from the US DoC. A US
>     court's decision can seals the sort of any website as soon as this
>     website is hosted by a US law's ruled company. Even, ICANN in
>     charge of
>     Internet Governance coordination is ruled according to US laws. These
>     are just some examples on the subject.
>     - I have even read an article a few days ago (than to our fellow
>     Mamadou
>     Lo) on the fact that US government can take control of Internet in
>     case
>     of emergency, as if Internet was like the US telephone system.
>     I don't ignore the huge positive impact US has had through the
>     history
>     on the development of Internet as we know it nowadays, but we are
>     talking about something that is no longer belonging to a country, but
>     that is an universal resource where full openness and democracy
>     are rules.
>     So now I am asking, how can we reject to China/Russia proposal of
>     putting Internet under the UN's ITU management and break its present
>     governance model while we are not struggling to have a less US
>     dependent
>     Internet which is an issue of same nature in my opinion?
>     What would be the african position (if there is any) on this issue?
>     Thanks in advance for your help.
>     Regards
>     [1]
>     http://www.internetsociety.org/news/internet-society-board-trustees-expresse
>     s-concern-about-potential-impact-world-conference
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