[AfrICANN-discuss] A .com domain name increases a company's exposure to foreign lawsuits, rules ECJ

Tue Dec 14 14:34:56 SAST 2010

Nice one, Nii! You should have been a lawyer as wellJ

From: Nii Narku Quaynor [mailto:quaynor at ghana.com] 
Sent: 14 December 2010 01:15 PM
To: vika at zadna.org.za; africann at afrinic.net
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] A .com domain name increases a company's
exposure to foreign lawsuits, rules ECJ

Vika,

Anne-Rachel would have "accepted terms & purchases with a jurisdiction"
that would be south africa in this case?

Nii

On Dec 14, 2010, at 8:56 AM, Vika Mpisane wrote:

I admit I read through the article quickly but I think the issue is not
really in which domain you register – instead the issue is a pure legal
relating to where jurisdiction lies for EU states where goods are advertised
on a website and are directed to potential clients in another EU country. It
doesn’t seem the ruling would affect non-EU countries.

Yet the ruling still does raise a good question in terms of the law of
contracts: where exactly does the cause of action arise in online
transactions? If I’m a business in South Africa and Anne-Rachel in Niger
accepts my terms & purchases something from me, and we subsequently have
dispute leading to a court case, which court has jurisdiction – South
African or Niger? Any contract lawyer on this list?

Regards,

Vika Mpisane

ZADNA

+27 11 275 0082

From: africann-bounces at afrinic.net [mailto:africann-bounces at afrinic.net] On
Behalf Of Rafik Dammak
Sent: 13 December 2010 05:51 PM
To: africann at afrinic.net
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] A .com domain name increases a company's
exposure to foreign lawsuits, rules ECJ

hello,

sorry Ntahigiye but I don't really agree with you, do we know why our
citizens buy domains under .com instead of ccTLDs ? maybe it sometimes more
easy and without so much burden.

Regards

Rafik

2010/12/13 Ntahigiye <antahigiye at tznic.or.tz>

Inne,

A good lesson to our citizens preferring .coms instead of .ccTLDs.

Ntahigiye Abibu (.tz registry)

From: africann-bounces at afrinic.net [mailto:africann-bounces at afrinic.net] On
Behalf Of Anne-Rachel Inné
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2010 1:27 PM
To: africann at afrinic.net
Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] A .com domain name increases a company's
exposure to foreign lawsuits, rules ECJ

http://www.out-law.com/page-11658

A .com domain name increases a company's exposure to foreign lawsuits, rules
ECJ

OUT-LAW News, 10/12/2010

Companies using a .com or .eu domain name, or displaying international codes
for phone numbers, are more likely to be 'directing' their activities at
foreign consumers, affecting where they can sue or be sued, the Court of
Justice of the EU has ruled.

Consumers can demand that contract disputes are heard in the courts of their
own country if a company in another EU Member State has directed its
business at consumers in that state or all EU Member States.

The ECJ said, though, that merely operating a website which foreigners can
access is not enough to qualify as a company directing its activities to
other countries.

"It does not follow ... that the words ‘directs such activities to’ must be
interpreted as relating to a website’s merely being accessible in Member
States other than that in which the trader concerned is established," said
the ruling
<http://curia.europa.eu/jurisp/cgi-bin/gettext.pl?lang=en&num=79898792C19090
144&doc=T&ouvert=T&seance=ARRET&where=%28%29> . 

The ECJ ruled on two cases together which both concerned the use of the
internet to book or reserve services abroad.

In one case, Austrian resident Peter Pammer sought a refund from German
shipping company Reederei Karl Schlüter for a voyage that he booked but did
not take. He argued that the ship did not match the website's description.
The shipping company said his action should be heard in Germany, not
Austria.

In the other case, German resident Oliver Heller booked rooms in Hotel
Alpenhof in Austria but left without paying his bill due to complaints about
the accommodation. The hotel tried to sue him in an Austrian court and
Heller argued that any action should be in Germany.

An EU Regulation of 2001 on jurisdiction, known as the Brussels I Regulation
<http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:32001R0044:EN:N
OT> , says that, generally, a consumer can sue a foreign business either in
his own Member State or in the business's, while a business must sue a
consumer in the consumer's Member State. This consumer protection will apply
in most cases, but only when a trader 'directs' its activities to the EU
Member State the consumer lives in or to several countries including that
Member State.

In the two cases it was claimed that because the consumers used the internet
to access the foreign operators' services, those services were directed to
the consumers' countries. The ECJ was asked to determine the criteria by
which a trader's activity on its website or on an intermediary's site can be
said to be directing its activity to a Member State.

The ECJ said that the 2001 Regulation on jurisdiction had loosened the law
in response to changing technology so that it would apply to more
businesses.

"This change, which strengthens consumer protection, was made because of the
development of internet communication, which makes it more difficult to
determine the place where the steps necessary for the conclusion of the
contract are taken and at the same time increases the vulnerability of
consumers with regard to traders’ offers," said its ruling.

Having said that the mere fact of having a website does not count as
directing activities to every country from which it is accessible, the ECJ
outlined the factors that do point towards activity being directed at
foreign countries.

"The trader must have manifested its intention to establish commercial
relations with consumers from one or more other Member States, including
that of the consumer’s domicile," said the ruling. "Clear expressions of
such an intention on the part of the trader include mention that it is
offering its services or its goods in one or more Member States designated
by name."

"The same is true of the disbursement of expenditure on an internet
referencing service to the operator of a search engine in order to
facilitate access to the trader’s site by consumers domiciled in various
Member States, which likewise demonstrates the existence of such an
intention," it said.

The ECJ listed factors that, "possibly in combination with one another," are
capable of demonstrating the existence of an activity 'directed to' a
consumer's Member State.

"The following features ... would, subject to the relevant national court
ascertaining that they are present, constitute evidence of an activity
‘directed to’ one or more other Member States," it said. "The international
nature of the activity at issue, such as certain tourist activities; mention
of telephone numbers with the international code; use of a top-level domain
name other than that of the Member State in which the trader is established,
for example ‘.de’, or use of neutral top-level domain names such as ‘.com’
or ‘.eu’; the description of itineraries from one or more other Member
States to the place where the service is provided; and mention of an
international clientele composed of customers domiciled in various Member
States, in particular by presentation of accounts written by such
customers."

"If ... the website permits consumers to use a different language or a
different currency, the language and/or currency can be taken into
consideration and constitute evidence from which it may be concluded that
the trader’s activity is directed to other Member States," it said.

According to the ruling, then, if a company operates websites at addresses
using other country's top level domains, such as .uk when used by a French
company, or if it uses non-geographic top level domains such as .com, this
indicates a directing of activity at other countries.

The ruling said, though, that the mere presence of " email address or
geographical address, or of its telephone number without an international
code " does not prove that the site is directed outside of its country's
borders because these details are needed for domestic, as well as
international, customers.

The ruling also warned companies that the nature of sites run by agents or
business partners could also determine whether consumers can force legal
action to be taken in their home country.

"The fact that the website is the intermediary company’s and not the
trader’s site does not preclude the trader from being regarded as directing
its activity to other Member States, including that of the consumer’s
domicile, since that company was acting for and on behalf of the trader," it
said. "It is for the relevant national court to ascertain whether the trader
was or should have been aware of the international dimension of the
intermediary company’s activity and how the intermediary company and the
trader were linked."

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