[AfrICANN-discuss] Re: AfrICANN Digest, Vol 20, Issue 12

Gabriel Latjor Ndow gln at pura.gm
Mon Oct 27 10:20:37 SAST 2008

Can someone send us the new program to be held in Mauritius? Hotels? Dates? 
So as to make adjust our plans accordingly.
Gabriel Latjor Ndow

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Date: Mon, 27 Oct 2008 06:51:11 +0300
From: McTim <dogwallah at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] About the change of AfriNIC-9 venue!
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On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 2:48 AM, Dr Yassin Mshana <ymshana2003 at gmail.com> 
> Fellow Africans, friends of Africa et al,
> Can someone please give us an insight as to how this major change happened
> so suddenly?

It seems that someone in Addis got their wires crossed, and didn't
understand that AfriNIC has nothing to do with domain names (except
those in the reverse tree).

What was the process that took place in the identification of
> the venue and the support?
> That would be help since the Article has done its public duty "to 
> inform" -
> there is a need to digest this important event in AfriNIC history.

I think it more of a minor annoyance really, but if there are folk in
Addis who want to run .africa, I would think that they have really
hurt their own chances by making themselves look incompetent to the
ICANN/Internet community.




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Date: Fri, 24 Oct 2008 17:00:47 +0300
From: "Eric M.K Osiakwan" <emko at internetresearch.com.gh>
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] About the change of AfriNIC-9 venue!
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Vika and All,

Generally, we have to treat such pontification of ignorance and lack
of understanding with outmost contempt. Time has a way of dealing
with such matters.

Whats important is the ability of the AfriNIC team to turn around
quickly and establish a venue for the next meeting and ensure uptake.
We all need to join the effort to ensure a successful meeting.

Good job, guys.

Eric here

On 24 Oct 2008, at 00:04, Vika Mpisane wrote:

> Hi Adiel,
> It's really saddening to see that some in the Ethiopian media have
> seen it fit to write a long, baseless, and frankly ignorant
> article. I guess it's safe to assume that political paparazzi is
> alive & strong in Addis!
> I don't know what AfriNIC has done to deserve this (I haven't
> attended an AfriNIC meeting since Mauritius in 2006), but I'm
> certain the journalist will need to explain some of the
> allegations. Has this journalist ever heard of some entities called
> AfNOG, AfrISPA, Afren & AfTLD? The answer is obviously not!
> I'm also offended in particular by the allegation to the effect
> that AfriNIC is pushing for dot Africa to operate from South
> Africa. While I can't deny or admit this allegation (me being not
> an AfriNIC member), I'm concerned that it involves South Africa &
> may end up becoming an accusation against South Africa trying to
> muscle its way to have dot Africa operated in SA. I'm not at SA
> government to speak from a position of authority in this regard,
> but as a South African, I'm greatly displeased with the article it
> tends to make negative allegations about us.
> I feel sorry for ETC for I don't think they've done anything wrong
> (I'm subject to correction). And I do hope that when calmness &
> sanity finally prevails in this journalist's mind (& possibly in
> the Ethiopian Ministry of Transport - depending on how blameworthy
> they are in this). I hope they'll realize they've greatly missed a
> simple point big time & they went on a crusade of innuendos not
> only against a particular organisation, but also against another
> country (this being SA).
> Hope you & the rest of AfriNIC keep well inspite of the baseless
> accusations. Forward to AfriNIC Mauritius - I'm convinced Mauritius
> will provide a suitable environment where informed participants
> will be able to discuss the dot Africa project without undue
> journalistic & government interference.
> Regards,
> Vika Mpisane
> General Manager
> .za Domain Name Authority
> &
> Treasurer
> African Top Level Domains (AfTLD)
> Tel: +27 11 275 0082
> From: africann-bounces at afrinic.net [mailto:africann-
> bounces at afrinic.net] On Behalf Of Anne-Rachel Inné
> Sent: Thursday, October 23, 2008 9:28 PM
> To: africann at afrinic.net
> Subject: [AfrICANN-discuss] About the change of AfriNIC-9 venue!
> Dear Colleagues,
> As you know, the AfriNIC-9 will now be held in Mauritius instead of
> Addis
> Ababa (Ethiopia) as originally planned. This is a unique situation
> which
> has affected us all. Many of you have written to us to inquire
> about what
> happened and to propose your help. Thanks to you all and your
> continued
> support to what we are trying to do at AfriNIC for our Region.
> We sincerely apologize for the short notice in change of venue. The
> previous
> host, ETC (Ethiopia Telecommunication Corporation) notified us that
> "for some
> serious reason that needs time to clear and settle", they have been
> obliged
> to pend and postpone hosting the AfriNIC-9 meeting. After some
> investigations to
> try to understand what is happening, it comes to our attention that
> the decision
> comes from the Government who has requested them to suspend the
> hosting of
> AfriNIC-9 meeting because they are suspecting AfriNIC to have some
> hidden agenda
> with the meeting in Addis Ababa and which has to do with
> "dotAfrica".  According
> to the article reproduced bellow, the bid for dotAfrica presented
> by a Company
> (leaded by and Ethiopian) has been sabotaged by AfriNIC which
> prevent her to
> settle the Headquarters in Ethiopia. According to information we
> have been
> able to collect, she claimed that AfriNIC want to host "dotAfrica"
> in South
> Africa or Mauritius so is against Ethiopia interests by doing so.
> Let's me precise here that dotAfrica and domain names businesses
> are not part
> of AfriNIC's activities. This serious misunderstanding of what
> AfriNIC is
> exactly and its role in the community injected by a person claiming
> to be the
> defender of Africa, has unfortunately denied Ethiopia a chance to
> host this
> important African technical community meeting. Indeed, AfriNIC
> which mission
> is, amongst other to "to support Internet technology usage and
> development,
> and promoting Internet governance" in Africa welcomes the
> opportunity to have
> a domain (dotAfrica) that will identify the African landscape on
> the Internet.
> AfriNIC will probably support any Open, transparent and bottom up
> initiative
> to have a dotAfrica domain for the region but will never run or
> participate
> in doing any business related to that domain names or any other.
> AfriNIC remains a service to the community and strongly disagree
> with personal
> interests and political pressures on its bottom up processes.
> AfriNIC developed
> its legitimacy from the community and will remain a community driven
> organisation
> as are the four other Regional Numbers Registries. We have already
> run our
> Public Policy meeting in eight  other countries without any issues.
> Our main
> objective has always been to raise awareness among the local
> community of  the
> country we are visiting and involve them more into the process.
> AfriNIC remains open to all of us.
> Let's keep focused on our numerous objectives and challenges in an
> open
> transparent with a systematic multi-stakeholder approach.
> The whole story is now released by the local press and available at:
> http://www.ethiopianreporter.com/content/view/3048/54/. A very
> quick English
> translation is also attached.
> Kind Regards.
> ______________________________________________________________________
> Adiel A. Akplogan                            Tel. +230 466 66 16
> Chief Executive Officer, AfriNIC            Fax: +230 466 67 58
> adiel at afrinic.net - www.afrinic.net          sip:
> adiel at voip.afrinic.net
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